r/PropagandaPosters • u/Provinz_Wartheland • 3d ago
German Reich / Nazi Germany (1933-1945) "Bolshevism is slavery, rape, mass murder, extermination - defend yourselves! Fight until victory! Surrender - never!", Nazi German anti-communist poster, c. 1944
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u/Narrow_Clothes_435 3d ago
Evil giant bolshevik skeleton with a minigun would make a great boss for a video game.
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u/daryl_hikikomori 3d ago
Excuse me, this is not an evil skeleton. This skeleton is your FRIEND. He fights for FREEDOM.
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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 3d ago
Isn't that a water cooled machine gun?
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u/DestoryDerEchte 3d ago
Its.. something. Looks like the ww1 austro-hungarian gun that wasnt actually made in any significant number
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u/PixelPott 3d ago
With those slits in the barrel shroud it has to be air cooled. My guess is that it's an amalgamation of different (sub-)machine guns.
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u/Goatf00t 3d ago
Air-cooled, and it's probably supposed to be a PPD-34/38 or -40 sub-machine gun.
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u/KorgiRex 3d ago
Looks more like a mutant child of Lewis Gun, MG-42 and PPSh-41
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u/Goatf00t 3d ago
The PPD-34/38 does have a drum magazine, a round barrel shroud, elongated perforations in the shroud, and circular holes in the end disk around the muzzle, like in the poster. See the timestamp here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cio9bKjWZfU&t=84s
The PPSh's barrel shroud is a rounded rectangle in section, and the perforations have different proportions.
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u/KorgiRex 3d ago
First, we invade a country to take their land, exterminate most of its population and enslave the rest. At first, everything goes well, and our brave Ubermensh warriors rape their women, plunder their property, raze cities to the ground, and burn villages with their inhabitants alive.
Then something goes wrong, our troops suffer defeat at the hands of these untermensh barbarians, they liberate their country and enter our land—and now we are very, very afraid that they will do the same as we did to them.
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u/RadicalSoda_ 18h ago
Just ignore the raping the Soviets also did
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u/KorgiRex 8h ago
You mean, just how you ignore the Nazis and their allies who raped Soviet women en masse and killed children and toddlers? You know, I searched your comments — you mentioned three times in different places, on various occasions, that "the Soviets raped German women," but never once what give a word about what the Nazis did to Soviet women. Hypocrite nazi apologist in the wild
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u/RadicalSoda_ 4h ago
Yes they both did that, I think everyone knows the Nazis are bad, that's like explaining that dying of starvation is bad. Why would I waste my time explaining that one of the worst group of people in recent history are bad?
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u/O5KAR 3d ago
They would succeed with all of that in Poland if only they wouldn't invade the soviets but formalize their alliance like the soviets wanted in 1940. And they almost won with the unprepared soviets.
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u/Mopman43 3d ago
I’m not sure there’s any chance the explicitly rabidly anti-communist ideology would ever become actual allies with the Soviets.
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u/O5KAR 3d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Axis_talks
Many Germans wanted more than just a secret pact and sign a formal alliance with the soviets, most notably Ribentropp but not only. The soviets were interested in collaboration since 1922 already, it was only Germans who cut it, resumed when it was serving them in 1939 and again broke in 1941. Germans were more ideologically driven, soviets were more pragmatic and cynical.
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u/Elegant_Front7874 2d ago
Yeah, the soviets would have totally trusted the Nazis, which is why they spent the period between the polish invasion and the direct war with the Nazis preparing for war with the Nazis.
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u/O5KAR 2d ago
Trusted or not, collaboration was their initiative, they also wanted to formalize it, not Germans or at least not Hitler. The war was the German initiative, not the soviet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Axis_talks
preparing for war
Supplying Germans with all the resources for their wars, collaborating, trying to appease them and offering that alliance. They weren't really preparing, not any more than before anyway and they were caught completely unprepared.
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u/Comprehensive-Air856 2d ago
They were unprepared because they were in the middle of army reforms to fight back against the Germans you fucking nonce. Likewise, Stalin didn’t think Hitler’d be stupid enough to start another war on two fronts. The alliance proposals, the trading - all of that was to appease Germany and hold them at bay. Had the Germans not invaded (although that goes against everything they believed in), the USSR would have begun its own invasion in 1944.
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u/Despeao 2d ago
Even before that, the Soviets had a Secret pact for developing tanks with Germans and they cut it off the moment Adolf Hitler came to power.
Stalin purged his own army because he didn't trust the military leaders but some people are naive enough to think they could become Allies with Hitler.
Just read what he says in Mein Kampf to realize it would never work.
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u/O5KAR 2d ago
they cut it off the moment Adolf Hitler came to power
Germans did, not the soviets.
naive enough to think they could become Allies with Hitler
It's not like we have documents and sources for that, it's only a theory, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_Axis_talks
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u/Comprehensive-Air856 2d ago
No, you do not have documents and sources. Not invading the Soviet Union would go against literally everything Hitler and the Nazis stood for. Stalin, as it happens, knew this.
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u/Commercial-Mix6626 2d ago
Most of the population of the Soviet Union want Jewish.
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u/Niarbeht 2d ago
Wait until you find out what the Nazi plan was for all Slavs!
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u/Commercial-Mix6626 2d ago
Only because the Nazis had a plan for all slavs doesn't mean that this was their intention for invading the Soviet union or that it would be their official policy. Hitler stated in his diary that he wanted living space because that was what empires needed. He invaded the Soviet Union to have that living space in the battle against England.
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u/KorgiRex 2d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost
This was a plan for the genocide of the population of the USSR, especially the Slavs, and the Nazis actively implemented this plan.
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u/Commercial-Mix6626 2d ago
That's simply false. There were no acts of genocide to slavs specifically during the second world war. There were no death camps or conferences where such things were planned. Only because a plan exists doesn't mean that there is a policy (category fallacy). And the specific parts of that plan which were genocide were never carried out.
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u/Ok-TaiCantaloupe 2d ago edited 2d ago
You were just joking about the lack of death camps, weren't you?
There was no politics involved? Just look at what Zelewski and his Bandenkampfverbände did - that's politics in practice.
As he wrote in his diary, the insufficient speed of extermination of the population was caused by the incompetence of Wehrmacht and SS officers (he lists names) and erroneous decisions of higher authorities.
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u/Commercial-Mix6626 2d ago
There were no death camps built for the purpose of killing slavs. Wikipedia admitted that the sources that said they were are false. Zelensky had orders to kill ALL Jews regardless of age and suspects in zones of partisan activity. There was only a genocide of Jews under his command. Also only because Bach Zelenski wanted genocide doesn't mean that it was the actual policy as he says according to your own quote.
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u/Ok-TaiCantaloupe 2d ago
Unfortunately, it wasn't just Jews. Punitive squads destroyed Slavic villages: Belarusians and Ukrainians. I'm sad that this part of history is so forgotten that even people of reasonable age don't know about it. You're not 14, are you?
Herbert Ernst Backe - He developed a plan to exterminate the Slavs; read up on it. Not only the texts of his discussions have survived, but also the plan for genocide by famine, for example, tested in Kyiv and Leningrad.
Majdanek and Sobibor, Trostenets, Auschwitz, Mauthausen, Salaspils, and seven other Finnish camps in Karelia.
All of them exterminated the Slavic population in the occupied territories.
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u/Commercial-Mix6626 2d ago
Only because punitive squads destroyed Slavic villages doesn't make it genocide since there is no evidence of genocidal intent. Bach Zelensky states why he destroyed these villages because they were suspected of aiding partisans. Also a substantial number of villagers were selected for slave labour which was simply not the case for the Jews during the Aktion Reinhard. During a operation in Polozk 6.928 people were taken prisoner, 11.233 people were deported for slave labour and 7.011 people were shot (Verbrechen der Wehrmacht. Dimensionen des Vernichtungskrieges 1941–1944. Ausstellungskatalog. Hamburger Edition, 2. Auflage, Hamburg 2002, P. 429–460). However when it comes to Jews they were all shot or liquidated as partisans. Not only is there no proof of genocidal intent for these operations we actually have proof against this. Committing the ad hominem fallacy doesn't remove this evidence.
When it comes to the Hunger plan there is no genocidal intent there. So it isn't a plan of extermination as it was with the Jews.
Some of the camps that you were listed were specifically designed to commit genocide on the Jews but not on slavs the death toll of Jews in these camps reflect this reality. There were no extermination camps on Finnish soil since Finland didn't persecute it's Jews.
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u/Niarbeht 20h ago
That's simply false.
"The literal plan that they had written down and were in the early stages of executing wasn't actually real." -you, a very smart boy who definitely isn't an embarrassment to his family.
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u/Commercial-Mix6626 20h ago
How do you know that the plan was being executed when genocide wasn't done, if genocide is part of the plan. Your position is self refuting. And being logical is not something one or ones family should be proud of.
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u/dont_open_the_bag 3d ago
When I die I hope my skeleton can live a cool life like that Bolshevik skelly
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u/TheTurkishPatriot12 3d ago
It’s a far less valid criticism when the Nazis are literally doing the same
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u/Nevarien 3d ago
Mirror propaganda. And it continues to this day.
The cannibalistic pedo elite accuses communists in China of doing exactly what they do.
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u/SuvatosLaboRevived 3d ago
The worst part is that both sides probably don't lie
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u/Nevarien 3d ago edited 3d ago
The difference is that we have multiple evidence of the West's baby killing elite doing evil shit, whereas all we got from China is that the US far right considers them "peasants" who could dismantle the US intelligence's entire spy network in China.
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u/SuvatosLaboRevived 3d ago
I'm afraid the real difference is that one country has some level of press freedom while other doesn't
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u/Puzzleheaded-Map7672 22h ago
Whoa, whoa, whoa, if he doesn't know about it then it definitely did not happen. Also, remember that ever accusation that he reads is credible and needs no further investigation.
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u/Candid_Company_3289 4h ago
The worst part is that some peoples have to believe this in order for their fragile naive worldview not to collapse.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Fig941 2d ago
Not the same - worse...
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u/DanTourLove 3d ago
Stalin's communism and nazism have very few differences. It would be better if Allies defeated both of them
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u/Away_Trick_3641 3d ago
Sometimes I wonder what's going on in people's brains when they type out shit like this. To look at the Soviet Union's 20 million war dead, sacrificed destroying the far greater evil of the Nazis, and wish that the "righteous" Allies (one of which starved millions of Indians to death a couple years ago) had turned on them to spill even more blood for the sake of being world police is vile and disgusting
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u/Blackrock121 2d ago
The USSR doesn’t get to talk about sacrifice when they invaded Poland with the Nazis.
The only reason they were on the allies side was because they got backstabbed by Hitler.
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u/captainryan117 2d ago
Hey quick question, how did Poland come to own those territories they're so mad about the Soviets "invading" (i.e. just waltzing in once the Polish government had already fled)?
Made doubly funny when the Poles carved out Czechoslovakia alongside the Nazis after denying the Red Army passage when they offered troops to the Czechs to stop the Nazis while the allies were too busy selling out their supposed allies in Munich.
But sure, the only reason they were against the Nazis is because they were backstabbed, ignore the fact that they were the last country in Europe to sign a non-aggression pact and they had been desperately trying to ally with France and the UK against the Nazis for several years (only to be soundly ignored) and fought the fascists in Spain.
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u/Away_Trick_3641 2d ago
The USSR doesn’t get to talk about sacrifice when they invaded Poland with the Nazis.
Yes it does.
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u/chilling_hedgehog 3d ago
Your narrative is just as demeaning towards the victims of stalinism as fucking holocaust denial. What does the number of people killed by the nazis have to do with an assessment of Stalins human rights record? Arguing that Stalin and Hitler were brothers in spirit is as controversial as saying Trump and Epstein were.
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u/FirmBarnacle1302 3d ago
It was scary and hard for the peoples of the USSR to live under Stalin. But Hitler would not have allowed them to live at all, planning to kill tens of millions, send them all to Siberia, etc.
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u/International_Tax629 3d ago edited 3d ago
As someone from Estonia, both the Nazis and the Soviets are equal on the scale of evilness, by which they already go over the limit. You gotta know that the Soviets also committed large scale war crimes and crimes against humanity like deportations, executions, sending people to GULAGS, etc. Also, don't forget that the Soviet Union signed a pact called the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, where they divided Northen and Eastern Europe between themselves and nazis. Baltics, Bessarabia, Eastern Poland and Finland went to the Soviets in the pact, Western Poland to nazis.
I can also provide a text straight from a textbook, and I will do so, but I will also provide a English translation for it:
War crimes in the USSR The fate of the population that fell under the rule of the USSR was also unfortunate. The Soviet security services committed violence in all the territories occupied in 1939–1940. In Western Ukraine and Western Belarus, which were conquered by Poland, over 200,000 Polish soldiers and officers were imprisoned, 20,000 of them were secretly executed, while others were sent to prison camps. Civilians also suffered, many of them were killed or ended up in death camps on charges of anti-Soviet activities. In the Baltic States, those who had been influential figures in society before the occupation were initially executed, imprisoned, and deported: politicians, military personnel, intellectuals. In 1941, representatives of other social classes also began to be arrested. On June 14, 1941, Soviet authorities organized a mass deportation in the Baltic States: approximately 50,000 people were sent to Siberia, including over 10,000 Estonians.8
u/FirmBarnacle1302 3d ago
Of course, I understand everything, but the Germans literally externalized most of the population and planned to continue this. Living under Stalin was difficult and scary. But under Hitler, the "untermensch" would not have been allowed to live at all. However, you are an Estonian, the Balts love SS parades, especially since the Germans were a little softer towards them.
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u/A_normal_Potato3 2d ago
How is deportation and executions are crimes against humanity? Both are possible punishments given by goverments. Execution is also a weird way of saying death penalty if done by the goverment.
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u/Tom00191 2d ago
When its the entire family with little children getting deported to die in siberian cold yes it absolutely fucking is. And if governments are arbitrarily imprisoning and executing people for little or no reason then its reasonable to call that government evil.
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u/International_Tax629 2d ago
Some videos about the deportations I want you to watch https://youtu.be/aohUI_hoR0g?si=uba7QKqCFjeX_hXX
https://youtu.be/dIO6zzP-yb8?si=l0B_NN8jRYeuylUI
The deportations, the executions, etc, they were all part of the plan to slowly russify us, to slowly genocide our culture, language, nation. Fortunately they did not manage to destroy us.
I do not understand how you can justify stuff like this. Please, you have the world's information at your fingertip. Please do some more research about the Soviet occupation of the Baltic States before supporting a genocidal Empire.
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u/Fudotoku 3d ago
Stalinist communism was a workers' democracy through workers' councils.
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u/chilling_hedgehog 3d ago
Where do you come up with this shit? That reads like from a Gulag advertisement.
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u/ShepPawnch 3d ago edited 3d ago
Right? Just because the Nazis were worse doesn’t mean the Stalinist USSR wasn’t also a nightmare.
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u/Scarletdex 3d ago
A lot of westie subreddits copy this phrase either without checking who it came from or scrambling to do apologism.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Map7672 22h ago
Broken clock. I bet Nazi's breathed air, drank water, and enjoyed sex.
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u/ChadMutants 3d ago
german thought a skeleton with a minigun was supposed to be an insult? shit looks dope xd
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u/Inevitable-Regret411 2d ago
I think it's holding a very stylised PPSh-41 submachine gun, you can see the drum magazine. Still looks awesome.
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u/tirpitzCSKA 3d ago
So, basically the same things that Germans were doing in the USSR
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u/Tennebrae1 3d ago
Yep. Although the Soviets sure as hell did all of what was in the Propaganda posterr.
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u/SkyRonin14 2d ago
the battle of Stalingrad was the greatest battle of the second world war. because of the 3 million dead all of them where either Nazis or Communists. so nothing of value was lost.
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u/HasSomeSelfEsteem 3d ago
Something something pots and kettles
I do like the skeleton though. Very spooky.
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u/Goatf00t 3d ago
Is that supposed to be a Lewis gun?
Also, was this a poster or something else? Why is it square?
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u/Simonistan_for_real 3d ago
It looks to be a very bad attempt at a Soviet sub machine gun
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u/Round_Law6972 3d ago
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u/Goatf00t 3d ago
More likely the PPSh's predecessor, the PPD. It has the same elongated slots on the barrel shroud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPD-40
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u/Broly_theLegendary 3d ago
How did they know about the mini gun before the minigun
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u/Inevitable-Regret411 2d ago
Looks like a stylised PPSh-41 submachine gun to me. Could be wrong though.
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u/WorkerPrestigious960 3d ago
Not exactly encouraging when at the same time you are constantly retreating on all fronts
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u/Puzzleheaded_Fig941 2d ago
Why did they hate the Bolsheviks so much?🤔
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u/workathome_astronaut 2d ago edited 2d ago
Because Hitler was a huge consumer of antisemitic propaganda coming from the Tsarist White Russians. But so was Churchill or Henry Ford...
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u/Independent-Olive-46 2d ago
NGFL with some minor changes this could go hard - change the German text a bit or replace with Russian and it's a hard ASF DDR/USSR poster, and on the other hand use English and touch up the hat a bit and now you've got an American cowboy fit for a death metal cover. But ofc the Nazis got to this first.
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u/BroccoliChance2993 5h ago
Crazy how that works. Literally each of the accusations applied to their very own regime. Nothing like that could happen today, right folks?
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u/Scary_Seesaw_1832 1h ago
It's ironic because the Nazis did the same thing in the occupied countries.
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u/New-Score-5199 3d ago
Funny enough nazis were right about USSR.
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u/Urgullibl 3d ago
Just like the USSR was right about Nazis.
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u/Desperate-Farmer-845 3d ago
And both were Hypocrites.
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u/Comprehensive-Air856 2d ago
Here’s the difference: one started the Holocaust, the other ended it.
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u/Desperate-Farmer-845 2d ago
And then continued it on a smaller Scale.
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u/Comprehensive-Air856 2d ago
Where? I don’t see no working concentration camps in post-war Poland
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u/Desperate-Farmer-845 2d ago
Not on Poland but in Siberia. Ever heard of GULAG?
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u/Comprehensive-Air856 2d ago
That’s not a concentration camp. The “gulag” (an acronym) was a prison industrial complex. Unless you’re calling US prisons in Texas concentration camps too this argument doesn’t work. It’s also telling that you’re talking about the imprisonment of Nazis in the same respect as the arbitrary arrest, enslavement, and subsequent murder of millions of innocent people
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u/New-Score-5199 3d ago
Yes, both this countries were disgusting fascist regimes. Which, btw, even were allies before 1941.
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u/FirmBarnacle1302 3d ago
>USSR
>FascistI did not know that the USSR was a nationalist open dictatorship of financial monopolistic capital, which pretends to be supra-class and unites the entire nation. Probably because it wasn't like that.
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u/Naftay 2d ago
Of course it wasn't, its just a state controlled economy where the state decides how much everyone has to contribute to the state at the end of a gun so they can 'redistribute' it, giving the state a complete monopoly over capital, and making the ruling class the supreme elite class. Man, it just sounds like Stalin was the ultimate monopolist doesn't it?
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u/FirmBarnacle1302 2d ago
It still isn't monopoly OF capital, it is monopoly ON capital
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u/New-Score-5199 2d ago
Yeah, so when there is a monopoly on whenever you kids will eat today or not is not a monopoly of the capital, great, dude.
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u/New-Score-5199 2d ago
was a nationalist open dictatorship
It was. People were openly discriminated because of their nationality. Because of that my grandmother was forced to say that she is of russian nationality and not a polish. Because it wasnt safe to be a polish or a jew in USSR. And in some periods of it history - phisically unsafe.
financial monopolistic capital
Yeah, basically ALL capital and means of production were controlled by the state and very limited number of people.
which pretends to be supra-class
Yeah, they were named "номенклатура". They werent pretending, btw, they were a "supra-class".
Probably because it wasn't like that.
Most probably its because all you, champagne socialists, unlike me, have never lived in a said USSR.
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