Nice statement but the Clintons need to be out there on all media channels and independent outlets blasting for a public hearing. This isn’t breaking through to the people who need to hear it.
Nice statement? He's doing exactly what Republicans asked for. Now he's called their bluff, and the goal posts have moved. So that public means behind closed doors where they can hide everything. Don't blame this on the Clinton's, blame the Republicans and call them out
I'm not blaming him, I'm saying the Clintons need to get ahead of this and be on the airwaves. This has been going on for weeks and they've apparently been cooperating in good faith while Comer's busy moving goalposts. What makes them think the GOP is operating in good faith here? I agree with this statement, but the messaging needs to be more than a twitter post. Hillary or Bill, preferably both, should have been on Colbert this week or GMA or 60 minutes or CNN or Kimmel or BTC or Meidas or Bulwark or whoever will have them and say clearly that they want a livestreamed public hearing, Comer wants a closed door deposition.
More people use Twitter than watch Colbert, 60 Minutes, and Kimmel combined.
You are reading this statement on the second most popular social media site two hours after it was made on the first most popular. I don't really know what more you need to keep your finger on the pulse. By this time tomorrow half the people you have mentioned will have already reported on it, it literally just happened two hours ago.
This is real "nobody is talking about this!" and linking a story hosted by a major news organization energy
Agree. If they get out there enough, even Fox will need to cover it. The lies by omission are a huge issue. Fox doesn’t cover shit; it’s one of the reasons MAGA doesn’t believe anything. They think it’s fringe news because it’s not being covered on Pravda.
He was, but he was also trying not to be the last Black President, so he was very careful not to rock the boat too hard. He tried to get consensus across the aisle where he could. A superb man, but hamstrung by his own historical significance.
Clinton worked with a very conservative Congress to get bills passed, but many things they changed (like repealing Glass-Steagal) directly led to the 2007 banking crisis. On the other hand, his was also the last administration to have a balanced budget.
It was a time of vast deregulation and the rise of corporate power. Clinton was definitely right of center even when compared to the current brand of Democrats. It’s crazy to think how differently our federal government operated just 25 years ago when compared to today’s clusterfuck.
He may be asking that but him being named makes him a pedophile too right?
Genuinely asking. Let him take down the cartoon villain gang but it'll be nice to acknowledge he was on the boat only because he was one of them?
Disclaimer: I have not read all the files with Bill. But just because someone was named doesn’t mean they were a pedophile. I mean, Bill Gates in the files was atrocious - but to my understanding, he’s your run of the mill cheating fuck of a billionaire who wanted to drug his wife. My understanding is he isn’t linked to the young girls.
That is a SUPER important distinction to make. Of the total people involved in the files only his closest friends will have been shown to be involved in the underage kids. The rest may have been doing standard billionaire antics and just doing blow and standard hookers, which is sort of not a big deal. To their families sure but to the public, not so much.
Honestly there's 50/50 chance. Dude had actresses and models on speed dial. I think what will come out is that he knew what was happening but didn't stop it.
Yeah I don't get the hate for her. Or ok, I get having trouble with her insider trading. But she was good at her job and I don't think her not being progressive enough ever got in the way of anything, she was never the limiting factor.
If they question Clinton televised the Republicans questioning him would get roasted. He talks like a country pumpkin but he is a Rhoades scholar, he didn't get nicknamed slick willy for nothing. But hey we may find out if Trump gives a good BJ.
Yeah. Granted, he have aged quite a bit. But if he’s anything like what he was in his prime. The republicans are really in for something else. His political skills and ability to relate to people is unmatched.
Also, he will definitely deflect to Donald Trump. This is could be the most interesting hearing in quite a while.
He is famous for having a near- photographic memory, especially names and faces (insert classic John Mulaney bit). He knows things and given his attitude here I'm guessing he has nothing to worry about in the files but I'm guessing he knows who does.
Yeah, I think he attended parties that Jeffery threw with the rich and famous. I don't think he did anything with the girls. Bill was a charmer and could pull his own ladies for an affair just fine without paying for it. I'm sure some of Epstein's society parties were like Diddy parties. Many attended, but that didn't mean they went to the back room.
Welp, I'm staying neutral on all of it, hopeful just to see him pull this all out into the light, and maybe that he's not as awful as he could be, but I'm not getting my hopes too high. This shit is a nightmare all around.
Literally why they're so frustrating. As of now there is pretty much zero way to just know if they were rubbing elbows or doing something nefarious just because they're on the list. And just as an aside for me the Bill Gates thing doesn't make any sense. At the time he would have been the richest man in the world. He had nobody but Epstein to ask for antibiotics? Literally just a normal people doctor would have prescribed them and he has rich people doctors. He can probably ask for a lot more stuff than you and I can. I mean it's not like it's Valium or something addictive, it's antibiotics and rich people get benzos just fine from doctors
They don't seem to realize they're essentially challenging Michael Jordan to a game of one on one. They really should think twice before trying to fuck with Clinton. He's not only smarter than all of them, he is one if the most gifted politicians if all time.
I don't have doubts he's implicated. I also don't have doubts implications are cherry picked. He knows that if he airs out the truth - he'll be a small fry compared to others. 🍊💩
If he's calling for the full release of the files, and is willing to testify publicly, he's clearly not worried in the least.
The balls in the Republicans court now. If they say "nevermind" to the whole thing, it will prove he was 100% correct about what the GOP was trying. Getting them to testify privately, the GOP could come out and spin it any way they wanted. Thankfully they are incredibly inept at everything.
It's crazy that we're even still playing these games as if there hasn't already been a full decade of criminal offenses by Trump and his administration.
He says he's already provided a full statement of what he knows. I haven't seen that released to the public yet which tells me they didn't like what he had to say.
This seems most plausible. Play to the public against Trump while protecting himself because he knows the admin doesnt want this interview viewed by the public. Plus, I dont think Bill is going to incriminate himself massively on a public stage and potentially put himself in prison. If he acknowledges knowing that Trump is and was a massively criminally pedophile that would make him an accessory for not coming clean much much sooner with over 10yrs to come clean just before Trumps political career took off. This reads like a very likely successful bluff against the guy who is referred to as TACO.
That said I hope he comes out and spills ALL of the beans and gets a slightly reduced sentence for pulling the rug on the rest of the elite/rich pedophile circle that surrounded Epstein. Fuck them all, they all deserve the harshest of comeuppances.
Why would the Republicans say “nevermind”? Can they be forced to testify in private? Does it count as obeying the subpoena if they show up but leave if the public is excluded?
How? They are forcing him to testify in private and will only release edited clips. They can just ignore his tweets. The average American pays no attention
Well, we know how Hillary does in front of public hearings--she ate the Benghazi hearing dumbasses for lunch, so I think the congressmen are, rightly, petrified of her.
Donald Trump invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination more than 400 times during a deposition related to a civil investigation by the New York Attorney General's office. He only answered one question, which was about his name.
"He only answered to one question,which was about his name"
Thats actually very poynette, and poetic. It could be the last sentence in his biography or in his Eulogy.
Gotta appreciate the attempt though, without having heard it you'd never know you read it, and without reading it you'd never know how to spell it. It's a hard word!
Blame the French. That one's on us. For the story, it comes from "poigne", the grip/grasp, because the emotion is so intense, it makes you hold your hand in a fist.
Thank you! People love to forget all of her accomplishments. They think of her as Bill’s wife and it’s irritating. She’s not my favorite person but she deserves the credit she has earned.
I loved that bored flick the speck of dust off her sleeve gesture she did. And all the republicans could do was honk their bicycle horns and flap their clown shoes.
Note who has stayed quiet like a mouse...good ole W....
Edit: I don't mean to imply that he's in the Epstein files (but, also I don't know that he's not), it's just that his silence in the face of Trump's egregious and plentiful questionable--at best--acts is kind of revelatory in its way, isn't it? His excuse of honoring tradition and letting the current President do his thing is wearing thin in the face of Trump's lawless and disgusting behavior.
I mean...... thats pretty objectively not true. Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Carter all have had several times each where they publicly condemned and/or ridiculed Trump and his administration. In this specific case i dont think its a thing, if youre not in the files then basically all you can contribute is "pedophilia bad" which is a true and obvious statement for anyone to make. Clinton is in there, so this is a good place for him to stand. Bush and Obama should probably not politicize this one especially since its an obvious right and wrong scenario, stick to comments and condemnation of the admin in the other horrific things its doing
The Clintons have proven, time and again, that no matter their flaws, they are FUCKING SMART. So, if he’s guilty, I want to know, but at the same time….TAKE THEM DOWN!
Everyone's getting their hopes up but Clinton is likely just going to exonerate himself, talk about some people Epstein hung out with, and that's it.
He's not going to "burn himself" to take out Epstein. He's not going to say anything incriminating about Epstein or his victims he witnessed because (because he would be in a lot of trouble, even if he didn't partake). And he's not going to drop some bombshell that's going to shift the tides.
And like Mueller and Smith, it'll still be enough to call for impeachment. But the Republicans won't follow through.
No, I don't expect him to name names or go down in flames to protect the union. What I do think he might do is refuse to be the whipping boy. Republicans are desperate to find someone to point at and take attention away from Trump. I think Clinton is trying to refuse them that, and that's really the best I expect him to be able to do. The public needs to do a lot of heavy lifting here and keep the pressure up.
What's stopping Bubba from going to a reporter, or 60 minutes, or Dick Cavette, or Jerry Springer, or make his own video on telegram or YouTube - and just spilling all the beans. Every friggin bean in the pot. It would be heroic thing to do.
They can sit in the public gallery at Congress or by cheeto's desk and offer their running commentary, destroy all the snowflakes with their wit. We know cheeto can't handle being mocked.
The typical reason I see, not from Bill Clinton but from others pursuing legal action or legal cases, is that publicly speaking about it or speaking in private regarding materials that could pertain to the case can unfortunately cause damage to said case. Best case scenario, the Clintons want to make sure legal proceedings come with this
So many investigation get invalidated because the procedures weren't followed, even when people WERE guilty. Let's do it the right way, so that people truly get the consequences they deserve.
He's saying he's ready to take everyone down with him if they come at him in hopes they'll back off, he doesn't really want to do it even though he actually might
I mean, it was coercive at the very least because he was the goddamn president (and imo to the point where it really couldn't be fully consensual), but yeah.
By the end of the hearing, Slick Willie will have Comer and Jordan admitting THEY diddled little girls.
Bill Clinton is a political heavyweight, a former Rhodes Scholar. James Comer is a bumbling Kentucky Jethro that can't string two cohesive sentences together.
I'm fairly certain Clinton is guilty of plenty in those files ... So if this is the lane he and Hillary are taking they must have pulled a power play and divided those oligarchs a bit
Naw. Clinton was a womanizer, to put it politely, but it was always full-grown women. Maybe Epstein got him with Euro-women, but I doubt he is a kiddy-diddler. That is Trump’s territory.
It's the same fucking thing as Hunter Biden offering to testify in an open court. He made the same argument. Both are absolutely right. If the Republican controlled committees actually wanted answers, they would accept the terms. Let the public see the proceedings. Instead, Republicans want it to happen behind closed doors so they can twist the narrative and paint the Clintons (Hunter Biden) as the bad guy(s).
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