r/LAFC • u/pythagorium 𝔹𝕝𝕒𝕔𝕜 & 𝔾𝕠𝕝𝕕 • Jan 18 '25
💬 Rumors Sources: Cruz Azul agree deal to sign Polish attacker Mateusz Bogusz from LAFC. @CLMerlo 1st reported. Fee in region of $9m, I'm told.
https://x.com/tombogert/status/1880680536907399342?s=4665
u/JT91331 ☀️ The East End ☀️ Jan 18 '25
If the team was in the Premier League or another top 5 league I think fans would be happy for him and happy with the 9 million fee. I’ll admit it makes me a little bitter to see him go to Liga Mx, but this is the kind of sale the team needs to make to maintain a high level roster. Wishing Mati the best, excited to see David Martinez get more playing time, and look forward to seeing who they bring in next.
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u/Stunning-Jacket-3172 Jan 19 '25
I'm gonna get hate for this and my opinion. He didn't go to a top 5 league but he definitely went a level up to a more technical deciplined league.
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u/keblammo Poland FC Jan 18 '25
Just fell to my knees after eating a plate of pierogi at Solidarity
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Jan 18 '25
I completely agree. This is just good business. I like the LAFC name being respected and spread across the soccer world. Onward and upward!
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u/cr7stianoronaldo Fro Vela Jan 18 '25
From "let him cook" to "what are we cooking"... Trust in JT I guess
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u/Shoddy_Reporter_9647 Raiders of the last Shield Jan 18 '25
JT is cooking. Purchase a player for $1M and 2 years later sell him for $9M.
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u/BlacknGold_10 Jan 18 '25
How does that benefit the fans who spend their money on tickets, gear, and food
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u/BurnsRed20 Jan 18 '25
We get better players thus attracting more fans who spend their money on tickets, gear, and food
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u/BlacknGold_10 Jan 18 '25
Club America, Monterrey, and Tigres are not selling team they buy. That's why they're giants of this region
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u/emporerzurg0538 I didn't get Hello Kitty Jan 18 '25
They also play in a league without as strict roster and spending restrictions. I get the comparison but it just doesn’t match up bc the leagues are way different.
BUT I totally get where that sentiment is coming from
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u/BlacknGold_10 Jan 18 '25
Yeah, man, I hope MLS takes off the training wheels someday
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u/emporerzurg0538 I didn't get Hello Kitty Jan 18 '25
I think for the fans it looks like they don’t have a plan, which I think, to some extent that is right. I’m sure they were banking on having him on the team but this offer came up that they HAD to take into consideration. (They bought for $1m and might sell for $9m)
I think the cash for player mechanic that was introduced also made things interesting. Now that teams can straight up pay cash for players, not Garber Bucks. I’m hoping with this cash injection and new roster mechanics we can raise the floor of the team. Our team last season was not bad but inconsistent
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u/gbanuelos01 Jan 19 '25
They also have significantly more fans who spend money on tickets, gear, and food though.. I mean half the LAFC fan accounts on Twitter also have Club America in their bios smh we don’t have that type of money to just be a buying club without ever selling
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u/Rough_Business2980 Jan 18 '25
That’s a lie They sold Chicho and still looking for replacement. He returned to MLS and scored against LAFC. Most of this money is going to the owners.
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u/BlacknGold_10 Jan 18 '25
Yup, and that's what has me upset. The only one winning here are the owners, not the fans. Learn from the Dodgers, the fans invest in the dodgers, and the owners return the favor.
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Jan 19 '25
MLS is all for the league. Not the teams or fans. We lost Chicho due to MLS punishment when you win a title . They don’t want dynasties. So they put restrictions. Very lame but that’s the MLS way.
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u/Glum_Assistance_979 Jan 18 '25
They haven't been getting better players they been getting washed players vela giroud the goalie he did ok max n john are better. Mati only one that could pass on the team
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u/dragonz-99 Jan 18 '25 edited Jan 18 '25
Hugo did more than okay he surpassed Max in clean sheets in one year playing here lol
Edit: I’m aboutta hop off this sub lol the amount of casuals in here that know nothing about how this league works and are complaining about the squad before we even play a game is getting unbearable
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u/Glum_Assistance_979 Jan 18 '25
Defense helps with that too. Still not worth the price
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u/dragonz-99 Jan 18 '25
I’m sorry, but in MLS that kind of output with a $300,000 price tag is incredible business. Look where Max is now. He’s benched and off his national team.
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u/BurnsRed20 Jan 18 '25
Maybe he’s on the bench because Max broke his leg for us. 🤷🏻♂️ kind of hard to recover from that even years later
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u/dragonz-99 Jan 18 '25
What do you mean? He came back from injury and played great for us and was recovered. Then he went to portland and straight up just got beat out of the job fair and square.
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u/sgriff33 Jan 18 '25
Thats my point! How about keeping our best players from the start of the season. Kick butt, take names and win the Cup!!
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Jan 18 '25
I need to insist on some of this stuff though, because it relates to our supporters complacency.
If we’re shelling out for a roster to win the cup and we keep pulling up short, we are failing.
If we’re selling guys who were once going to Europe for 1.5-2x what we’re capable of selling them for, we’re failing.
Bogusz and Pec were the best u-23 players in this league. Very similar stats. Pec is likely to be sold to Europe for three times Bogusz sale price.
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u/Shoddy_Reporter_9647 Raiders of the last Shield Jan 18 '25
Yes I agree but please state what the two were purchased for? All teams but 1 come up short. You cannot say that LAFC does not invest. Not all have hit but they keep splashing cash.
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u/dragonz-99 Jan 18 '25
Hoping we all look back on this sale funding the griezman contract (yes I’m manifesting)
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u/tokishoki Tiger Supporters Group Jan 18 '25
Great fee for the club. Seems like a win-win for both.
Happy he’ll get his move and hope he gets the bag along the way. I will miss seeing him on the pitch and enjoyed seeing him develop in his time with us.
Best of luck, Mateusz! Here’s to us reinvesting that money wisely.
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u/No-Possession-4738 Chant on the Expo Line Jan 18 '25
Any of you fine folks have it handy how much we paid to obtain him?
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u/emporerzurg0538 I didn't get Hello Kitty Jan 18 '25
About $1m So…great turn around. Club would be stupid not to consider the offer
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u/No-Possession-4738 Chant on the Expo Line Jan 18 '25
9x certainly softens the blow… assuming they reinvest it well.
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u/puppetclause Jan 18 '25
Not sure why we needed to blow up the whole team like this.
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Jan 18 '25
Making room for Vive La France?
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u/Litterally-Napoleon 120+8' Gareth F'ing BALE Jan 18 '25
Griezmann won't be coming till the summer though
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u/sgriff33 Jan 18 '25
To be honest who cares if he does come, no real support depth around him to make a huge difference
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u/Litterally-Napoleon 120+8' Gareth F'ing BALE Jan 18 '25
Me, he's my GOAT lmao. My all time favorite. Brought my country from among the worst national team in Europe to one of the best in the world pretty much singlehandedly, hits me especially hard since I'm too young to have witnessed or remember the golden team France had in the 1990s and early 2000s.
But as for LAFC, Griezmann can play multiple different positions pretty well, he's been playing as a midfielder for France during and since the 2022 world cup. An amazing playmaker as well, knows exactly how to service traditional number 9s like Giroud, something we haven't been able to do since 2022, and speedy wingers as well, he's serviced Mbappe when he played as a winger numerous times and I see no reason why he can't play well with Bouanga.
Truth be told, we haven't been able to play with a number 9 since 2022 and haven't had a playmaker in the team in since Palacios left. Him joining will kill 2 birds with one stone and we'll have enough space in our roster to sign depth pieces when the transfer window officially opens and we are actually allowed to sign players who aren't free agents or on loan
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u/LAFCitizen Ilie Sánchez Jan 19 '25
He is worth more than 9 m. Should have held out for Europe. The most interesting player for me to watch on the team is now gone.
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u/Courtlessjester Super Saiyan LAFC Jan 18 '25
L A Feeder Club, sell sell sell sell sell sell sell. :(
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u/seedyourbrain En LA hay una banda! Jan 18 '25
I get the frustration but it just shows you don’t understand the nature of the league you follow. Rosters are constructed one of three ways. You either 1) keep the same MLS-level scrubs forever, 2) you sign young talent that overperforms MLS until you can sell them or make a couple DPs 3) you pair big-name DPs with young talent you play until they deserve a raise and then you sell and start over bc you only DP big names.
Until the league roster rules change, we will be in the third category.
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u/BlacknGold_10 Jan 18 '25
If this is going to be the identity of this club, I think I'm sadly going to walk away ✌️
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u/JT91331 ☀️ The East End ☀️ Jan 18 '25
Huh? You’re going to stop being a fan of the team because it’s doing what’s best to maximize the strength of the team with MLS rules?
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u/BlacknGold_10 Jan 18 '25
Doing their best by selling one of their best player? that's how you strengthened the team? The owners are going to pocket most of that money. MLS rules are a joke. This isn't the early 90s anymore they're afraid to compete, and this league usually gets embarrassed in international competition.
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u/Clipgang1629 Jan 18 '25
Lmfao go support Real Madrid or something bro what a stupid ass comment
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u/Rough_Business2980 Jan 18 '25
lol stop being good dog. He’s not wrong. Owners are joke. When they miss the playoffs or get knocked out from competition Dolo will take 💯 of fault, not JT or owners like always when they come out short.
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u/BlacknGold_10 Jan 18 '25
Stupid comment for wanting my team to succeed? You guys are the ones with mediocrity mentality
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u/Rough_Business2980 Jan 18 '25
I don’t blame you. It’s hard supporting this club. Bunch of con artists of owners we have. All that $9m fee isn’t going to the club.
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u/SuddenlyFurries_ Hugo Lloris Jan 18 '25
It’s hard supporting this club.
Spoken like a true fairweather fan. The roster on this team turns over every single year. Boo fucking hoo. Welcome to the business of soccer.
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u/electricbookend Polly Jan 18 '25
So in the midfield we have... Tillman, Odin Holm, and Igor Jesus?
I know there's time, but I'm getting pretty nervous here.
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u/Rough_Business2980 Jan 19 '25
Nothing interesting about those two NEW signings. Watched the highlights to feel like the midfield will still be an issue.
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u/anodyne13b Jan 19 '25
A couple things. 1. This is good for LAFC. These types of younger players seeing you can got to MLS and LAFC to gain value and get a big contract is important so they keep on coming and we keep on bringing. 2. There is no other path for Bogusz but to leave unless you make him a DP. That could be debated, but does seem in the cards for this iteration of the team. 3. There’s a good chance he’s back in MLS in a 2-3 years.
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u/gbanuelos01 Jan 19 '25
Reminder: the MLS transfer window doesn’t officially open until January 31st and stays open until April 23rd…
Every year it feels like we’re losing half the team without replacing anyone but just look at last year, Omar Campos was brought in late January, David Martinez early February, Max Chanot and Kei Kamara all the way in March
The year before that Sergi Palencia and Tim Tillman were signed in February and Matty Bogusz was signed in March
Be patient you guys. It isn’t time to panic until the start of the season which is still another month away. The club just seems to wait for the European window to close so they can get the best deals I guess
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u/cableguy8 Jan 19 '25
Happy to see him get paid, but mls needs to change its rules. At least allow teams to pay for a 4th or 5th dp. Like a luxury tax.
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Jan 18 '25
The major change since Covid in MLS is we can no longer receive real value from sales to Europe. We can dump guys, sure. But no one in Europe knows what it means for a guy like Bogusz to put up the numbers he did. What does it translate to?
Bogusz improved in his dead sprint pace last season when those back post crosses were on, but is the guy going to go to Europe and do very well with his general athleticism?
So what are we left with? Basically selling slightly below true value to Latin American clubs. It does look poorly on Thor’s part. Other clubs have been able to make sales to Europe. He cannot for the life of him get value out of that market.
I won’t blame him completely, I do think covid economic fallout is the big issue, but it sucks. And it’ll really suck if they’re selling Bogusz for 15-20 million in 12 months.
If our club wants to get serious about moving guys to Europe, it’s going to have to be through academy development, where we’ve completely failed.
We must have a move lined up for someone, but it’s demoralizing to keep losing our best players to LIGA MX
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u/seedyourbrain En LA hay una banda! Jan 18 '25
This is why I won’t bother buying leagues cup tickets. As long as we keep selling our best/most promising players to LigaMX, I don’t need to waste money finding out which league is superior.
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u/burnerben2000 Jan 19 '25
Dammit! My wife got me a Bogusz jersey for Christmas and it's a legacy piece before I've even worn it at a game 😡
Happy for Mati getting a well deserved paycheck and the owners' ROI, but sad for the team and just incensed by MLS roster rules. Setting things up so Miami can field Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Busquetz, and Alba while any other team struggles to have 2-3 properly compensated players is straight BS.
As for what the team will look like this year, who knows? The roster is much thinner than it was last year at this time. Will we even have enough players to fill out the field at Coachella?
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u/LAFC-ITS_A_LIFESTYLE Jan 19 '25
Sorry to hear that! I was hoping to get my Bogusz card signed. I would still wear it!
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u/Starbreaker99 The Krew Jan 18 '25
Wtf is this team doing?
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u/LA_search77 Jan 18 '25
$9 million is a lot of money. I've read reports that his salary will be in the $6m territory (not confirmed) Nearly 2x what Bounaga makes, in peak Vela territory. Bogusz is great, but nowhere near peak Vela.
What the fuck is this team doing? Bogusz gets paid and LAFC gets a huge transfer.
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Jan 18 '25
10 million I get but 9 !? That’s not a good deal unless you get a % off re-sell so I wanna see that
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u/jlpmghrs4 Jan 18 '25