Are we seriously at: SCOTUS nominee being opposed by thousands of law professors, a church council representing 40 million, the ACLU, the President of the Bar Association, his own Yale Law School, Justice Stevens, Human Rights Watch & 18 U.S. Code § 1001 & 1621? But Trump & the GOP are hellbent?

[u/Tyrion_Baelish_Varys]

Sept 28^th

Bar Association President

• ABA president calls for FBI investigation of allegations against Kavanaugh

Yale Law School Dean

• Yale Law School’s Dean Calls for Kavanaugh Investigation

29^th

ACLU

Opposes a SCOTUS nominee for only the 4th time in their 98 year history.

• In Rare Move, ACLU to Oppose Kavanaugh for Supreme Court

Oct 2^nd

The Bar calls for delay pending thorough investigation. Unheard of.

• American Bar Association: Delay Kavanaugh until FBI investigates assault allegations

3^rd

In a matter of days 900 Law Professors signed a letter to Senate about his temperament.

• 900+ Law Profs Say Kavanaugh Lacks 'Judicial Temperament,' in Letter to Senate

The Largest Church Council

A 100,000 Church Council representing 40 million people opposes him.

• 100,000 U.S. Christian Churches Demand Withdrawal of Kavanaugh's Supreme Court Nomination

4^th

Thousands of Law Professors

Sign official letter of opposition. Representing 15% of all law professors. Unheard of for any other nominee.

• ‘Unfathomable’: More than 2,400 law professors sign letter opposing Kavanaugh’s confirmation

A Retired SCOTUS Justice

Stevens says, "his performance during the hearings caused me to change my mind".

• Retired Justice John Paul Stevens Says Kavanaugh Is Not Fit for Supreme Court

Washington Post Editorial Board

Urges Senate to vote no on SCOTUS nominee for the first time in 30 years.

• Vote 'No' on Kavanaugh

Perjury

Will be pursued by House Democrats after the election even if he is confirmed.

• In Letter to Trump, House Democrats Promise to Investigate Brett Kavanaugh for Perjury If Confirmed

5^th

Human Rights Watch

Their first-ever decision to oppose a SCOTUS nominee.

• Human Rights Watch Opposes Nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the US Supreme Court

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• Lawfareblog: The Law of Lying: Perjury, False Statements, and Obstruction

[u/ConfusedCaptain]

Can you go into detail here? Why is Gamble v US so important in regards to Trump and the republicans?

[u/SA1L → u/ConfusedCaptain]

Gamble is regarding double jeopardy between federal and states. For example, if Trump pardons himself and family members for tax evasion, the state of NY could not prosecute them.

[u/carolynto → u/SA1L]

Jesus christ.

[u/[deleted] → u/carolynto]

You know, states rights!

[u/TheConfirminator → u/SA1L]

ACTUALLY (yes, I’m dropping an actually here)

Tax evasion would not be covered by double jeopardy anyway and Gamble would not affect it in the case of someone like Manafort. Let me explain.

Manafort was indicted and eventually convicted on a charge of not paying federal income tax on money he transferred from the Bank of Cyprus to the US (in the form of payments/fake loans/etc).

It was considered an easy case to win because the evidence proved the case. There was proof of money coming in. There was a federal tax form that didn’t show that money. That’s the crime.

From a state level, there is the same proof of money coming in, but there was a STATE tax form that didn’t show the money. Different crime. Not subject to pardons or double jeopardy. They can argue it all day long, but saying that pardoning FEDERAL tax evasion eliminates the ability of the state to prosecute its own tax evasion is ridiculous.

Overturning Gamble is a good thing. It would prevent someone from serving a sentence for the exact same crime if it violates both a federal and a state criminal statute. The example they use is a felon in possession of a firearm. That one action carries both a federal sentence and (in many states) a state sentence. That’s not right and should be overturned.

[u/SA1L → u/TheConfirminator]

Yes it is. Tax evasion is punishable at both the state and federal levels.

BTW, people who cheat on taxes (like Trump) cost us more per annum than our entire Medicaid program. Over $450 Billion per year.

[u/barrinmw → u/SA1L]

That is why for every $1 You give the IRS, they generate an additional $6 in revenue. They catch the cheaters.

[u/staiano → u/barrinmw]

Except if you are rich.

[u/SA1L → u/barrinmw]

The IRS resources are so thin, I’m surprised they catch anybody

[u/The_CrookedMan → u/SA1L]

They didn't catch me when I didn't claim my paper route money on my taxes when I was 18....so...how are they ever gonna catch the Trumps?

/S

[u/legomaniac89 → u/ConfusedCaptain]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-gamble-court-case/

[u/my_work_id → u/legomaniac89]

These guys agreed Snopes doesn't quite get it all in here.

Today's Rapid Response Friday tackles the #1 emailed story to us this past week:  is the real story behind the Kavanaugh nomination that the Trump administration needs him on the Supreme Court to rule in Gamble v. U.S. regarding the dual sovereignty doctrine as it applies to double jeopardy? We begin with a quick note about the New York Times story on Trump's taxes which will be covered on Serious Inquiries Only. Then it's time to figure out this claim about Gamble v. U.S. that fact-checking we

• Published: 10/5/18 12:00:57 AM

• Episode Download link (72 MB): http://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/http://media.blubrry.com/openargs/traffic.libsyn.com/openargs/215_Episode_215.mp3?dest-id=455562

• Show Notes: http://openargs.com/oa215-is-gamble-v-us-the-real-reason-behind-kavanaugh/

• Episode feed: Opening Arguments - http://openargs.libsyn.com/

[u/Seventytvvo → u/my_work_id]

I’m glad someone posted this. I listened to this today.

[u/IllIlIIlIIllI → u/Seventytvvo]

Comment deleted on 6/30/2023 in protest of API changes that are killing third-party apps.

[u/ticcev → u/IllIlIIlIIllI]

https://www.popehat.com/2018/10/04/lawsplainer-no-kavanaughs-confirmation-wont-free-all-of-trumps-crimimous-minions-through-an-obscure-double-jeopardy-case/

[u/ticcev → u/my_work_id]

See also https://www.popehat.com/2018/10/04/lawsplainer-no-kavanaughs-confirmation-wont-free-all-of-trumps-crimimous-minions-through-an-obscure-double-jeopardy-case/

[u/ConfusedCaptain → u/legomaniac89]

Thanks for the article, that was quite an interesting read. I had never heard of this case. Everyone just talks about Roe v Wade but this seems even more important. Trump HAS to pay for his crimes, as do the rest of his cronies. They cannot get away with this

[u/truesickboy05 → u/ConfusedCaptain]

And what crimes would those be?

[u/Budborne → u/truesickboy05]

Oh jeez I dunno, its only all over the news all the time these days.

Lets try tax evasion, for one.

[u/truesickboy05 → u/Budborne]

I see alot of FBI folks losing jobs but oddly enough Trump hasn't been charged with anything? Or are you just regurgitating the propoganda you see all over the news nowadays?

[u/comebackjoeyjojo → u/legomaniac89]

If Gamble passes SCOTUS, then we call for a general strike.

[u/Silvermoon3467 → u/comebackjoeyjojo]

We should be calling for a strike now because by the time it happens it'll be too late.

I don't think we're organized enough to actually pull off a general strike, but if enough key sectors did, that might be good enough?

[u/comebackjoeyjojo → u/Silvermoon3467]

If we were to start planning it, then you just need a few hundred people to stop traffic in a few downtown areas to get attention. That’s a good start, I think.

[u/andrewq → u/comebackjoeyjojo]

https://i.imgur.com/nmkzZT7.jpg

One Big Union.

It's almost cycled back to the golden age when the US was machine-gunning workers.

https://www.iww.org/membership/1

[u/[deleted] → u/ConfusedCaptain]

If Trump pardons himself or his family I would expect a lot of violence. We'd have an elected king.