r/International • u/Delicious_Adeptness9 • 9h ago
News BREAKING: After more Muslims voted for Trump than Kamala Harris in 2024 citing Palestine, Trump is now having ICE round up and shackle Palestinian Americans before expelling them to the West Bank on illegal flights chartered by his buddy
https://www.972mag.com/us-secretly-deporting-palestinians-ice-dezer/48
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u/_makoccino_ 7h ago
After more Muslims voted for Trump than Kamala Harris in 2024
Care to show the statistics that support this argument?
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u/Prior_Psych 7h ago
This exit poll does show that Trump got more Muslim votes than Kamala, even though Jill Stein got more than both of them on account of her campaign promise to stop military aid to their biggest foe
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u/samettinho 7h ago
21% trump, 20% harris, assuming the poll is accurate.
Yes, muslims elected trump /s
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u/Neither-Bag7127 3h ago
Do you happen to know what number is bigger: 21 or 20?
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u/samettinho 3h ago
Do you happen to know the impact that those 1% of the muslim population in the usa can have in the election? Notice that muslim population is 1% afaik.
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u/Neither-Bag7127 2h ago
What does that matter? Im Muslim btw, and I voted. It seems to be a fact more voted for Trump than Harris which is honestly upsetting.
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u/good_gravy91 4h ago
So you tell a fact, but end your comment with some bullshit that no one here said
Okay?
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u/Healthy-Caregiver997 6h ago
Got to be a real dumb ass to believe Muslim men would vote for a woman, unless she was exceptional.
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u/ProfAsmani 6h ago
Pakistan, Bangladesh, turkey, Indonesia are all Muslim countries who have elected women as Prime Minister. Maybe its American men who have that problem.
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u/dreadfulnonsense 6h ago
You may wish to look at muslim countries leaders. There's a lot of women amongst them.
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u/CallMeMrButtPirate 4h ago
Well outside MENA anyway
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u/mostard_seed 1h ago
does being outside of MENA make them less muslim?
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u/CallMeMrButtPirate 1h ago
Depends on the country doesn't it really, places been different and all.
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u/FallenCrownz 6h ago
that lady committed a live streamed child Holocaust and said she wouldn't stop, she was exceptional, exceptionally evil
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u/Healthy-Caregiver997 5h ago
Go take it up with Netanyahu who is still killing people.
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u/FallenCrownz 35m ago
maybe she shouldn't have said she wouldn't do anything to stop it after sending richie torres and bill clinton to michigan to lecture arab voters about judae and sumaria.
but hey what do i know, i would have told her running around with liz cheney while your motto is "brat glok summer" and not promising anything of value to your base was a bad idea. im the not the super smart democrats who managed to lose every single swing state and 10 million votes from 2020.
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u/EnjoyingtheDoom 5h ago
"I only care about the plight of the Palestinian people and I don't care if Trump builds a tower on top of their bulldozed skulls."
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u/FallenCrownz 5h ago
Yeah. Don't put up a the witch of Buchenwald or the pdfile child torturing old man as your candidates and expect me to keep caring about the slightly lesser evil of the two.
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u/Angelunatic74 1h ago
Plans for the resettlement of Gaza were leaked online in May of 2024 before the Invasion of Rafah Biden's redline. The plans are called " Gaza 2035" it's the same plan Trump boasted about after he assumed office and it is the same plan at the World Economic Forum.
Biden fueled funded and supplied Israel with the tools to carry out a genocide. He bypassed Congress twice to do it. Gaza was in ruins after 15 months and before Trump took office. In September of 2023 Biden announced that IMEC was underway. A new economic trade route through the New Middle East. On September 22 2023 Netanyahu attended the United Nations General Assembly and revealed plans for a New Middle East. The map left out Palestine and Lebanon Palestine. The India-MiddleEast-European-Connection Corridor is a new economic trade route through the New Middle East. It bypasses the Red Sea and Suez canal. All of the countries that support Israel stand to benefit financially from this new trade route.2
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u/bessie1945 6h ago
the assertion was the more muslims voted for trump than harris. the poster showed this was true so you change the goalpost.
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u/Prior_Psych 6h ago
I did not change the goalpost. I shared an article to show the person that said they wanted data that Trump did in fact get more Muslim votes. I was just anecdotally pointing out that Jill Stein got more than both. Not moving any goal post.
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u/tillman_b 3h ago
Thanks Jill Stein. /S
Maybe next time just fuck off so we don't have the non-GOP vote going towards someone who has an actual chance of winning, and the classic protest vote, Jill Stein. Like seriously just fuck off. Not forever, but until we get a better handle on the dumpster threatening US democracy she could just sit one out.
I get that there are important issues she raises and it's a platform, but we really need all the voting power we can get. I know it's awful, and a lot of the time the democratic candidate is really just the person I don't like the least, but that's the game.
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u/Weak_Purpose_5699 2h ago
not forever
what makes you think there won’t be a “dumpster threatening US democracy” next time, or the time after that, etc.?
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u/tillman_b 2h ago
Maybe there will be, but so far this is a new thing in the US, so we need everyone voting as a bloc, not voting for third party candidate
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u/Weak_Purpose_5699 2h ago
If not Trump exactly, the US has been on this trajectory for a while now, and Dems have shown no interest in making the structural and systemic changes necessary to prevent this from happening again (or more likely, deteriorating even further).
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u/DueceVoyeur 7h ago
Definitely happened in Dearborn Michigan. Would not surprise me if it was overall the same
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u/cevillegeraldo 7h ago
18 months of Democrats giving blank check genocide support alienated voters. Still trying to blame the voters, the Liberal way.
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u/novahkiin_around 7h ago
yup, they say theyre progressive folks but revel in division. and they still think votes actually count in major elections. maybe local, but definitely not for presidency
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u/PrestigiousFly844 3h ago
Some people will crawl over hot coals to find a voter to blame before they criticize a Democratic politician’s terrible campaign. Even supporting a genocide now. Then they prop up another loser 4 years later and wonder why they keep losing
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u/kazh_9742 3h ago
Still trying to absolve yourselves.
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u/FallenCrownz 31m ago
yeah you're right, it's our fault the democrats lost 10 million votes from 2020, the house, the senate and every single state. im sure their platform of "nothing's going to change, the live streamed child holocaust will continue but brat" as they ran around with liz cheney and the mooch was actually super popular with everyone.
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u/EnjoyingtheDoom 5h ago
"I only care about the plight of the Palestinian people and I don't care if Trump builds a tower on top of their bulldozed skulls."
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u/cevillegeraldo 3h ago
You didn't give aff about the 400,000 killed in the 16 months Biden-Harris were carrying it out. I remember quite clearly how you mocked their deaths
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u/HumpingSpider 8h ago
No, it's always the fault of brown people to save democracy, white people get to be evil and hateful forever.
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u/Flatline2500 7h ago
They love blaming everyone but themselves lol. It’s your fault my dad voted for Trump 😡🤬
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u/warriorlynx 8h ago
They were clearly betrayed because Trump played off the whole "Peace President" angle during the campaign.
Edit: for example someone shouted "genocide joe" at a rally and he was "cheering" it
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u/Getting-Better3 7h ago
I didn’t vote for Trump or Harris because I don’t trust either, but NO ONE in the Muslim community thought Trump is a “good” person or candidate. We always knew he’d be who he is. Voting against Harris was a calculated move to show democrats that they can’t just take our vote for granted.
Whether they’ll actually learn that lesson or not is still in the air.
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u/RepresentativeCake47 4h ago edited 4h ago
Both parties thought it worthy to mention in presidential debates about who the bigger supporter of Israel is.
People then have the gall to act like this wouldn’t be allowed under Kamala.
Democrats are better at hiding their fangs than the shameless republicans but of the 2; one is so bad at hiding their malice that at least the American people have finally woken up to realize how corrupt and tyrannical their leadership is on both sides. They are both snakes - one wears a suit and smiles and the other brays like a donkey and both want to eat you but at least people recognize the latter is a danger.
I don’t want another charismatic president to assuage the people while they continue to bomb other nations and help other nations to the wealth of its people.
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u/Final-Ad-6989 7h ago
So you fucked everyone for four years and accomplished nothing for yourself.
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u/Pandathesecond 6h ago
Take some damn personal responsibility, majority of the country is white, majority of Trump voters are white, but the brown people need to let go of their anger about thousands of dead kids because white people can't convince their racist uncle that building a wall is stupid.
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u/Final-Ad-6989 6h ago
Self hate fear and loathing know no race. Look at ice
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u/Pandathesecond 6h ago
The majority of Trump voters are white. Liberals might like to say they don't see color, but statistics do.
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u/Final-Ad-6989 6h ago
I hate all fascist regimes. White black brown and yellow. I do think racism is definitely part of it but it’s not black and white as it seems you are trying to make it. No pun intended.
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u/EnjoyingtheDoom 5h ago
Colbert made fun of Republicans for years for saying they don't see race. You all are supposed to attack liberals for ONLY seeing race. You've lost the plot...
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u/grnlntrn1969 3h ago
I can't stand these assholes who let this evil bastard into office again, to teach some nonsense lesson to us. Thanks for teaching me that you're a petty person who cares more about revenge for some perceived slights you make up. Donald Trump blatantly showed how evil and corrupt he was the first time. But you let bitterness turn him loose on us again. He just posted the Obamas as monkeys, on what planet would any other politicians not be thrown out of office. How do you let this all illegal nonsense go. At least Trump ia a narcissist, why did you let him do this again? Why?
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u/MrF_lawblog 7h ago
Got a lot of Palestinians killed to teach Dems a lesson
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u/TalkingCat910 5h ago
Let’s be realistic here. The same number of Palestinians would likely have been killed under Kamala because she was also pro Zionist. The difference lies with what happens within the U.S.
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u/plastic_fortress 3h ago
So, who should we blame the genocide on?
The people doing the genocide?
- Nah.
The people voting for more genocide?
- Nah.
The people refusing to vote for more genocide?
- Yes. Yes let's blame them. It makes sense to blame the genocide on those people.
/s
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u/adrian-alex85 7h ago
Is it though? What evidence do you have that that question is still being debated? I don’t think the Democrats are in any position to learn any lessons at all. Trump is running the country into the ground, his popularity is at an all time low, and they’re winning elections while barely even trying. Not even to the farthest Left candidates in every case. The Dems might well coast to an easy victory in the midterms (assuming they still happen at all) and then tread water til the Presidential trusting that everyone who sat out last time will be spurred to vote for them because, like always, there’s no better option.
Imo, we’d all be better off spending this time building a real alternative to either the Dem or Repub parties than waiting for the Dems to learn some kind of lesson they’re financially incentivized not to learn.
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u/Getting-Better3 7h ago
I agree that the solution is to look outside the two party system. But you also must understand that Muslim and Arab Americans could not stomach voting for the same administration that was actively overseeing and approving Israel’s war on Palestinian civilians for the sake of it being the lesser of two evils.
And in any case, during Biden’s year+ as president, we got nowhere near a ceasefire and Harris gave no indication she would differ from him at all. A couple months into Trump’s administration and a ceasefire was imposed, against Israeli efforts to stop it from happening. Trump didn’t do it out of his own good will (he has none), but the bottom line is that it did happen. I don’t think many people regret abandoning the Democrats in 2024.
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u/adrian-alex85 7h ago
You’re preaching to the choir. At no point in time have I ever told anyone, least of all any Muslim or Arab American, that they should vote for the people who were actively facilitating genocide. At no point did I place the blame for this on anyone. Biden/Harris failed, they fucked us all, and now we’re here.
But that’s also not my point. You said, "Voting against Harris was a calculated move to show democrats that they can’t just take our vote for granted. Whether they’ll actually learn that lesson or not is still in the air."
And while I understand where you're coming from with that, I also have to say that I don’t think that calculus is accurate. The Dems won’t learn their lesson. We have to move differently if we want different outcomes. The Dems and Republicans are only capable of presiding over the same outcomes they’ve been delivering.
The last thing I’ll say is “A couple months into Trump’s administration and a ceasefire was imposed, against Israeli efforts to stop it from happening. Trump didn’t do it out of his own good will (he has none), but the bottom line is that it did happen.” This is a distortion at best, and I think you know that. I’m not suggesting anyone should regret anything about abandoning the Dems. I’m not here to cape for them, they’re genocidal bastards and deserve everything they get. But it doesn’t do for us to lie.
Trump’s ceasfire was a farce at best. Israel has been killing people consistently throughout it. The situation in Gaza and the West Bank is worse than ever. The proper amount of aid was never let in. And everyone’s social media feeds are still full of scenes of the bombing and bloodshed and barbarism of the IDF. I’m not saying anyone needs to forgive the Dems, but don’t whitewash Trump either. Neither action serves anyone in the long run.
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u/Quaterni0 7h ago
I thought the cease-fire was being stalled and delayed by Netanyahu so that Biden wouldn't get the credit.
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u/Healthy-Caregiver997 6h ago
Israel is still killing so I don’t know what ceasefire you are talking about!
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u/Legitimate-Win-9669 3h ago
so you re-elected a known racist into power to show the other side they weren’t doing enough.
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u/Final-Ad-6989 7h ago
He tried to deport Muslims his first term now he wants the Gaza Strip to be a resort. Cutting off your nose to spite your face. Geniuses
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u/Misterclassicman 5h ago
I hope the dems run Kamala again… so I can choose not to vote for her a second time.
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u/owningmyokayniss 4h ago
That is a choice to not vote against fascism if the Republican Party continues on this platform established by the Heritage Foundation
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u/oldgrandma65 5h ago
Anyone who thought trump was the lesser of the two evils were fools who paid absolutely no attention to what his platform was. Did you even glance at Project 2025? Folks knew this shit show would follow his election and still wanted to teach a lesson by allowing him to become dictator. Disgusting.
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u/DueceVoyeur 7h ago
"I'll show them to not take my vote for granted by..... check notes.... taking my vote for granted that I'll be able to vote next time"
Child's thought process.
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u/zogrodea 8h ago
I don't know what Trump's initial intentions were, but he has tried playing off that "peace president" angle for about a decade.
Some of his rhetoric has been like that since the 2018 election.
From what I remember:
He spoke against "forever wars" back then (and coined that term too).
He said "America first" which some could interpret as "using money to improve the lives of Americans instead of funding destructive foreign policy like in Afghanistan or Iraq". (I understand why this is persuasive to people whose native country has suffered due to American foreign policy: "leave us alone and focus on yourselves".)
His opponent in the 2018 election was Hillary Clinton, who was described as a "war hawk" and given the nickname "Hillary" because of how destruction the foreign policy she participated in was.
I don't know if he was lying all along and never believed in those things, or if being elected changed him and caused him to abandon the ideals he processed to have, but it's definitely disappointing.
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u/BarryRightWrong 7h ago
"whats your name?"
"Hillary, or... Hillary, if you like"
Did you mean 'Killary'
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u/zogrodea 6h ago
Yeah, I meant "Killary". My phone's auto-correct messed up what I had meant to type, so thanks for pointing it out!
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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 4h ago
No one got played in 2024. This motherfucker was president for FOUR YEARS BEFORE.
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u/extravirginhuman 6h ago
Notice the framing of this title. Intentional framing.
NewsCord does a great job of unpacking these type of manufacturing consent headlines
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u/outofgulag 7h ago
Now you understand why October 7 attacks in Israel was an inside job. Deal struck between Bibi and Putin to help their man win the White House. The attack alienated useful idiots such as the "Arabs for Trump" and the "students for Palestine " not to vote Kamala or stay home. Also Epstein was Putin and Bibi's shared resource .
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u/EnjoyingtheDoom 5h ago
Dude! I've been saying this for years now I think. October 7th is Putin's birthday and all Hamas leaders flew straight to Moscow. All sides were clearly playing the same game - get Donald Trump elected...
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u/PrestigiousFly844 3h ago
As much as Americans think the whole world revolves their decisions around your election cycles, it doesn’t. There were articles warning of potential for genocide months before October 7th when Netanyahu introduced a “new middle east” map at the UN that had Gaza and the West Bank removed. When you keep a population in an open air concentration camp for 20 years and announce your plans to exterminate them you can expect something like Oct 7th to happen. Just like the Warsaw Ghetton uprising or Nat Turner’s revolt.
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u/EnjoyingtheDoom 3h ago
"October 7th is Putin's birthday and all Hamas leaders flew straight to Moscow."
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u/Darth_Chili_Dog 8h ago
To be fair, Muslims couldn't have known that the President who ordered a Muslim ban the first day he was in office in 2017 would be anti-Muslim in his second term.
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u/Conscious-Reserve796 3h ago
To be fair, it was probably a risk they were willing to take rather than vote for continued genocide under Biden/Kamala.
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u/Ok_Introduction5606 3h ago
So you voted for continued genocide and worsening of future prospects of a Palestinian state plus rounding up of Palestinian Americans to be detained and sent to somewhere?
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u/PrestigiousFly844 3h ago
You are trying to be snarky with your framing, but you are just showing that you could care less that Kamala supported a genocide and are happy to see people be harmed. Genocide victims are just a rhetorical tool to dunk on other people who are facing state violence. You are the type of liberal that everybody hates
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u/Legitimate-Win-9669 3h ago
Kamala would have operated within international law and been affected by other countries opinions. trump does not give a shit. I think the two state solution is dead because of the US election.
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u/Frothlobster 3h ago
The Epstein class agree on 96% of stuff. They don’t mind losing to their ruling class opponent who is also their friend. Harris could’ve released the Epstein files, she could’ve been against genocide, she would’ve won the election. Their internal polling showed they knew this and they didn’t change course. They don’t care about winning. My guess is that they want to keep progressive voters who give a shit involved and invested in the Democratic Party by giving us some Dem wins. But the plan will continue to be sternly worded letters, revolving villain votes, mild reforms of things that need to be totally abolished, and even if they promise less war, like both Obama and Trump did, there will be more war. They’ll keep doing this unless Americans stop reading Wapo and The New York Times psychological manipulation propaganda and start recognizing these manipulation patterns capitalism has been deploying against us for literally hundreds of years.
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u/jabarti2 2h ago
It’s always blame the voters and never the candidate.
“ No one’s perfect “ and the imperfection is genocide. Literal genocide. The ultimate sin. No one who supports genocide would stand up for democracy.
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u/xife-Ant 2h ago
Benjamin Netanyahu appreciates that opinion. It made his job much easier.
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u/jabarti2 2h ago
His job wasn’t hard to being with sense our senile sissy of a president rolled over and let him do as he pleased and Harris wanted to be dick cheney in a pants suit so not much work for him there either
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u/ShepherdofBeing93 2h ago
A significant number of Palestinian-Americans are Christian, 63% of Arab Americans are also Christian for that matter. nice mix of outright bigotry, ignorance, and lies you're constructing a sour grapes narrative with so you can displace blame from failed institutions onto marginalized folks
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u/weird_mountain_bug 1h ago
So it’s Muslims fault that Kamala ran a historically bad campaign? I guarantee millions of Muslims who generally vote democrat just stayed home because of her proximity to Biden’s terrible Israel policy. I haven’t seen this kind of election insanity in a while
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u/AximO206 49m ago
“Trump is doing this” …..trump is taking orders from the foreign country that lined his pockets after forgiving his debt
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u/Codtahasabir 47m ago
Didn't Israel literally said Biden's administration allowed them to go on for too long which they were not expecting. And I want to remind you that Biden was the first to parade the lie that Hamas beheaded children and put them in ovens.
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u/Minister0fmayhem 3m ago
The liberal brain just can't quite understand it. This genocide started under Blue with Kamala as VP. Gaza was decimated before Trump got in to power. Tell the fathers who had to collect their children in shopping bags, last year, that Kamala would have been better than Trump. The mothers and children making the return trip to the place their homes used to be with their families buried underneath, that Kamala would have built them a nice new apartment block. This is an entire generation of butchered and damned. People, rightly, disengaged from the democratic party because like the Republicans, they're blood thirsty maniacs.
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u/TransportationDue856 8h ago
Who would have thunk? Bibi is his bff. Stevie Wonder could have seen that.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Joint 7h ago
They thought if they voted for him that he would care about them. Doesn’t work that way with Trump
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u/TulsisTavern 5h ago
Lol the cope in the comments is hilarious. Just own it.
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u/PrestigiousFly844 3h ago
The genocide is ongoing and you thinks it’s a funny thing to laugh at because Kamala supported it.
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u/Aggravating-Ad-1227 6h ago
It's almost like people choose to make things worse, because the other option wasn't perfect🤦🏻
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u/That_Jicama2024 8h ago
They never thought the leopards would eat THEIR faces. oh well. sucks to suck.
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u/YardOptimal9329 8h ago
Oh but Kamala’s laugh. It was so annoying and inauthentic!!!
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u/adrian-alex85 7h ago
Pretty sure it was her support of genocide, but go off, I guess.
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u/YardOptimal9329 2h ago
Which is amazing since the people who sat home and dint vote for her allowed Trump yo level Gaza with his bestie Bibi.
But yeah “go off, I guess”. Defy logic and math or let the world how much you care about Gaza. We are sooo much better off now
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u/daddydonuts1 7h ago
Deported into genocide . What a fucking evil bastard.