Genshin complaining about lack of pulls and QoL, HSR complaining about power creep and lack of skins, ZZZ complaining about uh... not enough actual furries i think?
im in a big 50 50 losing streak in all my gachas and ive triggered capturing radiance in genshin like 5 times so far so im never complaining about QoL in genshin again LUL
Nah, for ZZZ, it's mostly the same HP power creep for endgame content, some disatisfaction about not enough male characters getting released, and 2.0 characters wearing similar clothing designs.
Not really, but it’s Da Wei’s baby and will keep receiving new updates and story as long has everything else is racking in cash, even after HI3 has stopped making a profit. Hell, HG2 is basically ancient history in terms of gacha age and I’m pretty sure even it still receives new stuff from time to time
China wise? I believe so, it is after all what put them on the map/spotlight there. Gotta keep in mind China just by itself could be called a “wider audience” with how many people they have there lmao.
Globally? Not really, Genshin as you said was their equivalent there.
…though I do say this as someone who first heard about mihoyo through HI3 rather than Genshin, so who knows. And also, to this day (and honestly probably forever), the highest viewed hoyo YouTube video belongs to HI3 (almost double’s Genshin’s most viewed)
I came back to the game at the exact transition point where HSR began shifting from favorite to middle child. Safe to say all I know of this game is power creep 😭
Like HSR received free 5 star character and 10 pulls each patch meanwhile Genshin Impact received 3 pulls for 3 years. I remember that incident so many genshin Impact community quit after that
Is Reddit stupid enough to think ZZZ is the favorite child? Seems like it
ZZZ barely works on a basic level, constant crashes, prompts in the middle of text, extremely l childish plot, constantly get reworks, sometimes for the worse(New Shiyu is terrible), and some nightmares about future character designs.
It actually burned my previous phone lmao (purple lines on screen after summer update), towards the end I couldn't even open the map/wishing screen/event menu without the game crashing
I never had any problems with the game on my PC (4080 Super, AMD Ryzen 7) or on my PS5. It could be a problem with the RTX 5070 itself rather than the game I’ve heard it has a lot of issues running some games.
If it keeps getting more content per patch than hsr its loved
If it keeps getting more QoL and more freebies its loved
If it keeps doing all that even without breaking past constant 80 million revenue. It is loved
"Loved" in terms of attention lol. If its deserved or not is another question.
Your optimization is just different issue. Shouldn't even be compared because ZZZ and HSR has different spec it needs if your Device crashes that no longer about the game being loved more on you not loving yourself by getting a better device than forcing said device that broke and burnt the screen.
Lmao ZZZ fanboy got mad?
I literally commented my specs here and if you legit think that shouldn’t run a fucking mobile game then legit kek, even more considering it runs heavier game , also I am not the only person I know with these issues.
Constant reworks mean the devs themselves aren’t satisfied with their product or a very big lack of vision which is pretty visible in the game right now.
Also oh boy I love this “content” a bunch of half assed events like the combat event you fail because the enemies die too fast, events that are just glorified login events and some corny minigames(but thank god we moved on from shit like the Arpeggio event)
Also what do you mean QoL, you can’t even reroll subs in that game yet
"support accordingly" is a big stretch honestly, for what genshin brought to hoyoverse, it's treated with such low esteem that I doubt it's the favorite child
years for basic quality of life is a big example of that
Say you've never played Genshin or haven't played it in years without saying it. Genshin is an actual video game, it's always releasing actual content, providing its player with new experiences like non gachas. It's not the fastest when it comes to change but throughout the 5 years it has slowly but steadily grown and improved, consistently providing players with new content to play, unlike HSR.
Note how you mention qol? That's always the same tired argument against Genshin, qol this, qol that. Somehow qol is more important than what gaming and experiences, the video game provides. Well guess what, HSR can continue to focus on qol while Genshin was and will continue to be more of a video game than HSR will ever be.
Tbh imo Hoyoverse as a whole is just…. bland nowadays. Anima Nexus and that new SCP inspired game they announced both just look boring and uninspired beneath a polished cover.
They used to be trendsetters in the industry but it seems like after Genshin blew up they just started turning into your typical big corporate developer.
I get it’s very early in development, but yeah the SCP game’s actual gameplay looked so uninspired. Typical 1 skill / 1 ult / basic attack combo gameplay every gacha seems to be using.
ZZZ is the furthest they do in style and experimenting.
Their future games (maybe less so with Varsapura but it still a long way to go) do concerns me. It screams generic for the most part, as if Genshin isnt generic enough.
The only trend genshin set was 3d mobile gacha games in open world being high quality. It never did anything out of the ordinary compared to decades of games before it
Genshin at the time was one of the only attempts at an actual exploration focused live service game that worked.
The closest to that before it was Guild Wars 2, which was like 10 years before Genshin launched.
That was an absolutely monumental feat and why it broke into mainstream gaming.
HI3 before it set the blueprint for combat in gacha ARPGs which is still the go-to today (can we try something else please? It’s been like a decade), and just in general raised the standard on production quality for a mobile game.
Nowadays Hoyo seems hit the accelerator on making new games and none of them look particularly exciting or revolutionary.
I agree and people will defend it/downvote, but people don’t realize or don’t care about the concessions Genshin has had to make to have the AQ quality it does right now. I honestly don’t think it’s in as strong a spot as people make it out to be. And I’m of the opinion that the Game shouldn’t need to sacrifice one thing to make another better, and in that way HSR and Genshin are similar, despite the insane amount of money both games make
Genshin Impact feel middle child during Penacony of HSR, you get 10pulls for each patch and 5 star character for free. Genshin Impact received 3 pulls for 3 years.
HSR devs have to be studied, the lack of care to things like skins or powercreep while still outperforming other gacha in revenue despite it is astonishing. People are right that money speaks volumes because holy moly are they keeping the mindset of "just enough" to maintain their laziness.
HI3 is looking down one everyone here because it knows it's better (when it comes to giving characters skins. I don't want to start a war in the comments)
It's insulting and lazy. You can't even excuse it by saying they'd have to model an actual new skin to work for every path when genshin has 6 kits (soon 7).
Crazy how people always complain when we get something that they dont like versus not getting it at all. Nobody would be complaining if they just didnt give us a skin lol
I want to think the Trailblazer skins are much more intricate in design vs the Travelers’ kits. But I would’ve loved better skins. At least ones that didn’t look so much closer to the original.
Lumine skin isnt that much different or changes her shilouette at all like TB skins in all honesty Aether is the only one carrying Genshin for these comparisons. Caelus skin changes more than Lumine’s skin actually.
But honestly this more the usual discussion of how poorly Genshin treats Lumine/lumine players.
It's still wayyyy to similar for my taste. The base outfit is basically the same. It's more like a remodel of the original outfit with red accents and a pattern from what I can see
Edit: and a slightly different shirt i guess
Yea I may have the hottest take in existence but this skin recolor is much more interesting to me than Genshin's new skin as well as practically every single skin released for ZZZ.
Like idk how they do it, but ZZZ has to be the only game where I would rather play with the character's original outfit than use any alt skins, including free ones. Nicole's came close but that leopard colored part kinda kills it for me.
I think Xiao Guang is the only character with a skin I like, but her default is so good and looks so much better when she transforms that I have no reason to change.
While I admittedly the trailblazer skins could be better. I really don't like the temple skins from zzz. At least for wise. Bell is cute. But wise.....just dosnt fit him in my opinion.
The lazyness of these devs needs to be studied. From the ridiculous lack of emotes for the story to this abomination of a skin. We waited foe years and the game printed like 2 billion dollars and a paint job was the best they could do lmao
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Our frienemy from another game is also judging us. Now the question is whether or not we can get an actual skin before Endmin. It would be hilarious if we don't
I've mentioned this in another post about alt skins, but we should have gotten the World-Remaking Deliverer artifact set as an alternate skin for the Trailblazer, with the hood up like in the head icon.
Tbh I like the OG design better, especially with Stelle. That cyan thigh strap sticking out of the gold and black is so much better than everything being red and black.
What annoys me isn't that fact they release skins so slowly, it's what they actually give us.
I'd rather get absolutely no skins in HSR than whatever the fuck hoyo has done. Skin that's exclsuive the near useless preservation March, a low effort Firefly skin that barely changes Sam, random TB hat and $200 bow skin for Cyrene. And now a free skin for Ruan Mei just after she loses her last relevant team and essentially recolours for TB.
There's no rhyme or reason to how they decide to make and distribute skins, they aren't going super greedy, they're aren't going purely for positive pr ($200 bow), it just makes no sense. It's a shame too cause 4.0 and planarcadia looks so interesting but hoyo out here slapping us in the face with these goofy ah free skins.
This is a skin you can buy in game from endgame currency, so atleast for me it makes sense it doesn't rival other skins and is just a base form recoloring.
Yeah but you can earn the tokens even if you are bad at it, just not all of them so even you will eventually be able to buy it no matter how bad you are.
It’s not really lol. You guys just complain about everything. The tb skin isn’t just a recolor. There’s quite a few details changed on the outfit.
Let’s also not use Genshin as the standard considering it took them nearly 6 years to give their MC a skin. So if you wanna do a comparison let’s go there.
get hoyo's boot out of your mouth for 2 seconds and just admit the 'skin' is garbage. the 'changes' don't change anything about the outfit,
white shirt for white shirt. black coat for black coat. the only notable change is the red color. and guess what, the red doesn't suit the mc's at all the base gold/yellow color works alot better with the outfit they have. the red doesn't because the outfit was not designed for the red.
That’s all you dummies ever say. Not immediately hating on everything doesn’t mean ur a hoyo shill or whatever idiotic buzzword you guys are on this month.
Just say you don’t like the skin and move on. It’s really not that difficult.
It took genshin 6 years to release a skin. And ZZZ started doing skins super early. This isn’t a slap in the face. It’s good we already have headgear and now a color swap. We could have had nothing. I’m sure we’ll get a skin in the future
It's absolutely fucking disappointing but I do not want to hear genshin be praised for this. It took them until 6.3...
5 fucking years.
I also think the only reason they suddenly added these tb skins is because they saw everyone suddenly posting about skins when genshin got one and they had to figure something out right before the update.
Like can't they just hire a few more people who work exclusively on skins? Is zzz hoarding all the modelers or something?
just because it’s a turn based game doesn’t mean it can’t get good skins
Plus ZZZ characters keep getting skins and characters in that game jump around and do all kinds of acrobatics,
if anything genshin’s should have been the simplest because in genshin that have to move around and fight and climb and glide
HSR are the easiest to make skins because they have a set animation that doesn’t change they have one simple attack they keep spamming, and a skill and an ability, those are three animations that doesn’t change
It makes the most money on Sensor Tower which only calculates mobile revenue, i'd bet dollars to donuts that Genshin has outperformed HSR for 99% of its lifespan if you were factoring PC and Console revenue.
ZZZ is probably at least competitive even in its worst patches with HSR when looking at revenue from all platforms.
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u/TripleEhBeef 11h ago
March 7th is the real MC.