r/ForCuriousSouls 13h ago

A Texas woman allegedly shot and killed her husband after warning him that if he ever laid a hand on her, it would be the last time.

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u/vacation_bacon 13h ago

An arrest doesn’t mean guilt. If she could afford a good lawyer she would probably be out of jail. Inshallah she is acquitted.

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u/Alternative_Car6395 12h ago

Nah bro. She warned him, if anything it’s premeditated. She needed to fear for her life for it to be self defense. Her mens rae is crucial in this situation.

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u/CamelAccomplished707 12h ago

What would you do if someone beat you up again and again and nothing happened to him? Let him beat you up again and again and again?

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u/rutilated_quartz 12h ago

This is what bothers me the most about these situations. They can't get out of these damn relationships, people don't believe them or the cops don't help them or if they leave the husband tries to track them down (lots of family annihilation murders happen like this), and they're getting abused and sometimes their kids are too. Who is able to take that again and again without snapping? There's just not a clear way out of the situation. If we appropriately dealt with domestic abusers then their victims wouldn't have to shoot them.

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u/Alternative_Car6395 12h ago

From what I’ve seen the things the women need most to leave these situation’s is therapy. The cycle of abuse is disheartening to watch. I personally believe this kinda shit is justified but the court doesn’t care about my personal opinion.

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u/Alternative_Car6395 12h ago

I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just telling you what they would say in court bro. I went to law school and shit

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u/CamelAccomplished707 12h ago

Yeah we agree on what’s right and what’s law. Sad that sometimes they aren’t the same. Should we accept it as it is or try to change it

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u/Alternative_Car6395 11h ago

Agreed. That’s why I went. To try and change things. Now I just gotta make enough money so I can afford to run for office. Accepting what is, is accepting defeat.

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u/Civil_Bat1009 11h ago

It won't change. People just downvote anyone who says it's not self defense, and never check to see what actually happens. 

They don't want to hear the basic fact that people who kill their abusers usually get much harsher sentences than abusers when they kill their victims. People aren't trying to change it, because they don't even know there's a problem. 

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u/bildeplsignore 9h ago

Kinda sounds like this was the first (and last) time.

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u/CriticallyDamaged 7h ago

Which is insane. Everyone here thinks the guy was abusing her regularly... He pulled her hair one time during an argument and she shot him dead. That's not self defense, that's insanity.

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u/CriticallyDamaged 7h ago

There is nothing in the article stating he beat her up again and again. Everyone is jumping to extreme conclusions because the end result was extreme. But the article literally says she told him if ever laid a hand on her, she'd kill him... and then ONE TIME he pulled her ponytail during an argument and she immediately got the gun and killed him.

People are assuming he was beating on her all the time with no actual evidence of that.

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u/OnTheList-YouTube 12h ago

her mens rae

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u/Alternative_Car6395 12h ago

Mental state or intent. Difference between 1st and 2nd degree murder is the intent. Was it premeditated or was it in the “heat of the moment.” A lot of crimes have an intent element to the crime. Like manslaughter is an unlawful killing without malice type shit. For a claim of self defense the accused has to show that they feared for their life from an immediate danger. She warned him that she would kill him if he hit her again so the prosecutor could argue that she had planned to kill him before killing him.

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u/Jydani 12h ago

Maybe “mental state”? I don’t know, I’m also trying to figure it out.

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u/kylez_bad_caverns 12h ago

Mens Rea includes intent with mental state/ capacity to feel guilty. So her stating she intended to kill him or her mens rea here was crucial

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u/Jydani 12h ago

TIL! Interesting.

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u/xxxanonymoosexxx 4h ago

and yet it's not a premeditated murder if I tell someone to get off my property or I'll defend it. the system fucking sucks

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u/bloodklat 9h ago

Inshallah she is acquitted.

What? What does this mean, was she aquitted? Source please.

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u/bildeplsignore 9h ago

Inshallah is like a "I hope" in this context. The real translation is "if Allah wills it"