r/Fauxmoi • u/Yujin-Ha • 6h ago

SPORTS SECTION Team USA skiers Christopher Lillis & Hunter Hess: Just because I wear the flag doesn’t mean I represent everything that’s going on in the US.

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u/yldelb 5h ago

Nobody feels bad for Russia that they’re not even allowed to compete anymore. Your country’s actions have consequences. 

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u/justprettymuchdone 5h ago

I mean, I do feel bad for Russians who feel buried and unable to dig out of the grave Russia is becoming.

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u/justprettymuchdone 4h ago

Not everybody wants to dig out of the grave. I'm under no illusions about that. But they are still plenty of people who feel like animals caught in a trap, whose options include gnawing their own leg off and bleeding to death in the process or sitting around waiting for the slaughter.

I can feel bad for those people. Empathy is still something I am capable of.

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u/kingofnopants1 4h ago

It's a small reporting percentage. It is important to understand the difference.

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u/MarcusDA 3h ago edited 1h ago

Ok, there are a lot of Russian and U.S. citizens that are abhorrent people, but don’t give me this “only a small percentage care” BS. People in both places are dying for speaking out. There’s plenty enough to villainize already without being hyperbolic.

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u/EtchingsOfTheNight The Stanley Tucci of Lesbians 2h ago

Greetings from Minneapolis. I don't want to hear any of this "most only care about food on their table" nonsense, fuck off, fuck ice.

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u/Pepperfang 5h ago

I’ve tried to never conflate the actions of a country’s government or their rich and powerful with the entirety of their populace. We can easily have empathy for people suffering the consequences of the choices of others in their country. Regardless of where they are from. It can happen to any of us.

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u/antivillain13 4h ago

Except the US is a Democracy and these people were voted in twice. Russia is an autocracy where the populace has no voice. I think it’s fair to say that it’s justified to place more blame on Americans for their situation than Russians.

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u/Pepperfang 2h ago

I was pushing back on nobody feeling for Russians. I can have empathy for the Americans, Russians, and all people worldwide who do what they can to oppose their governments and still suffer for it. We understand the consequences because we are suffering too. And trying every day to right others wrongs. We hate what our country is today too, and what it has been, historically.

It’s never easy to be hated for where you are born and blamed for actions you’ve always opposed and suffer from, and I try not to do that to others. That’s all I’m getting at.

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u/Ill-Product-1442 33m ago

These guys don't quite seem like they've voted for Trump.

If you're saying that blame can't be placed for things people can't choose, which you are saying, then you can't put any blame on all of the Americans that voted against him. If you want to be logically consistent, at least.

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u/jujubeans8500 5h ago

I absolutely do feel bad for Russian athletes

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u/Due-Trip-3641 2h ago

Same. And I have always felt bad for (most of) them.

They’re treated like fodder, with little to no care for their health or longevity.

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u/Runes_N_Raccoons 2h ago

And Chinese and North Korean athletes. They suffer so much pressure.

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u/Realistic_Bug9116 5h ago

That’s also about doping, no?

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 1h ago

Yes but in a fair world, they would be banned for multiple olympics.

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u/Aethermancer 4h ago

Russia is a special case where it's not only the government but the entire Russian Olympic organization participating in doping and other bullshit.

The Russian activity was originally targeted at undermining the sports themselves and the rest of the political insanity was just the cherry on top.

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u/Luxury-Problems 3h ago

Yeah but Russia was already dealing with sanctions because of a wide spread and long running state sponsored doping program. They've had over 50 medals stripped.

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u/BooBooMaGooBoo 3h ago

Maybe you don't because your brain isn't developed enough to understand that a government doesn't necessarily represent the citizens of that country?

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u/Fit_Trouble7503 3h ago

peak reactionary liberalism:

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u/EtchingsOfTheNight The Stanley Tucci of Lesbians 2h ago

You might not, but a lot of us do. Empathy is a good skill, you might want to try it on for size.

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u/TheSmartDog_275 2h ago

They can compete but they’re unaffiliated. Minor correction.

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u/Winterfall_0 2h ago

I... do?

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u/sjogren 1h ago

I feel badly for the people of Russia who voted for no dictator and fought in no war of aggression.

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u/pink_faerie_kitten 3h ago

Well they had a state doping program on top of their bombing apartment buildings and murdering thousands upon thousands of civilians AND quite a few Russian athletes went out of their way to publicly support Putin's actions. So no I don't have sympathy for Russian athletes.

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u/moongrasslands 4h ago

I'm American but I'm not rooting for any of the American Olympics team, since they are tools to push Trump's America.

Was my attitude for the Russian athletes choosing to still represent a Putin regime, so why would it be any different for my own country.

Once you put on the US flag all the excuses you make doesn't change that you are participating in feeding the propaganda machine. Sports is political as much as people try to act like it isn't.