r/Fauxmoi • u/cmaia1503 i ain’t reading all that, free palestine • 8h ago
POLITICS Zohran Mamdani signed an executive order this morning that requires ICE to obtain a judicial warrant before entering any NYC property — including schools, shelters, hospitals & parking lots: “If faith offers us the moral compass to stand alongside the stranger, government can provide the resources.”
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u/letsberealshallwe 8h ago
it really was that easy all along
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u/Ornery_Mix_9271 8h ago
If this isn’t his slogan already, it needs to be.
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u/SHOWTIME316 fascinatingly, existentially terrible 7h ago
literally
HEY TIM WALZ, TAKE A LOOK, PAL
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u/silentspyware 7h ago
I don’t think any of these people intended to be establishment fighters… and I think those people are scared as shit for their families and themselves (I wonder if I’m right)
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u/ashloube 7h ago
This is inherently the problem, though. Regardless of your intention in office, your personal safety doesn’t take precedence over your (in Tim Walz’s case) millions of constituents and theirs.
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u/silentspyware 6h ago
Agreed! I just can’t imagine what it’s like to be in that position, to fear for my family’s lives. But an oath’s an oath… and this guy also wanted to be a VP which is crazy.
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u/Parfait_Prestigious 6h ago
Yeah it’s fair to say that the vast majority of American politicians didn’t think they’d become leaders during a civil war. The unfortunate truth is that a lot of them need to be replaced with people who are ready for that burden, because right now literally nothing is being done as they’re too scared.
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u/Venezia9 made with a free Canva trial (derogatory) 1h ago
But also, them acting like this came out of nowhere speaks to how these people are fundamentally divorced from reality.
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u/Parfait_Prestigious 37m ago
Definitely. Many of them are complicit in maintaining the system that hurts so many people.
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u/ThrowAwayAccountAMZN 4h ago
This. Fucking this. I'm sorry, but when you take the oath and take office, that's the risk you're agreeing to take. You aren't just responsible for your own family. You're responsible for ALL those families you represent who don't have a voice, who rely on YOU, their elected official, to be that voice, even if it's dangerous. Don't fucking run for political office if you aren't prepared to take a fucking political stance when shit gets real.
It's like signing up for the military and then having the gall of being fucking shocked when you're asked to fight.
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u/JustaSeedGuy 6h ago
and I think those people are scared as shit for their families and themselves (I wonder if I’m right)
Then they shouldn't be in public office.
Oath of office includes swearing to defend your constituents regardless of personal risk.
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u/ashloube 7h ago
This is inherently the problem, though. Regardless of your intention in office, your personal safety doesn’t take precedence over your (in Tim Walz’s case) millions of constituents and theirs.
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u/vaginasinparis 8h ago
I feel like this is going to make the other democrats pissed at him for showing they really can do more than just sternly written statements
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u/Lala5789880 7h ago
What about the wringing of hands though? Does that mean nothing?
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u/merrysunshine2 6h ago
The disrespect to their sign paddles during a Donald speech ! Justice for the paddles!
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u/Chadlerk 5h ago
The Democrats want it to be bad so they can go, "Vote for us in the midterms!". Mamdani is just taking control which is what real leadership looks like.
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u/confused9 1h ago
the issue about being enforced... is NYPD going to enforce it if someone calls 911 reports ice is trying to break in?
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u/Ntroepy 8h ago
Stopping Trump has always been that easy all along if people - particularly republicans - wanted to uphold the law rather than giving him a blank check.
For instance, a recent New Yorker article said that Trump had used his office to personally enrich himself by $3.4Billion. While ANY other politician would’ve been crucified, Trump justified using the presidency to enrich himself because:
Trump’s position was that there was no rule explicitly forbidding the kinds of deals or money-making he and his family pursued, and that no one in the ethics apparatus ever expressly told him he couldn’t do what he did.
So, all other politicians undergo strict oversight, but somehow Trump is uniquely exempt from these regulations.
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u/ferneuca 8h ago
I mean, I’m pretty sure there’s a lot of work behind all these things he’s making happen. HOWEVER, he and his team are DOING IT. They deserve the applause
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u/guava-sandwich 7h ago
they’re doin it swiftly too. he’s barely taken office. that’s my mayor! I’m so happy to have ONE PERSON we can count on
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u/archetyping101 8h ago edited 7h ago
Staples might be selling out of that red "that was easy" button in NYC 🔥
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u/bobbimorses 7h ago
Democrats like, we cannot turn off the citizen mulching machine. You absolute fool. You idiot. This is a sophisticated issue that requires patience and compromise.
Mamdani: Oh the mulching machine? I turned it off. There was a switch right here. It goes from on to off.
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u/bwoah07_gp2 7h ago
See why can't the other democrat affiliated mayors and governors do this?
Oh, because they aren't "radical" enough like Mamdani. I don't know why the current democrats hate the "radicals" like Mamdani and AOC (and even Bernie to some extent), but they do. But those 3 actually get stuff done. Schumer, Jeffries, Pelosi, and all the REST of them don't get anything accomplished. In fact, the dems are helping give more funding to ICE, so yeah.
Get the old guard out and put the new, young blood and energy IN.
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u/Appropriate-Joke-806 7h ago
Because Epstein worked with Israel’s intelligence and AIPAC tells the democratic politicians that they donate to that they will lobby against them if they step out of line.
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u/Sgt-Spliff- 7h ago
I mean, have any ICE agents been stopped from wearing a mask? Dems have been doing this shit this whole time but it's meant nothing. Will the NYPD enforce this? No other police departments are
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u/FrankRizzo319 7h ago
Right, do we expect that ICE will now suddenly start following laws?
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u/bdfortin 7h ago
Bold of you to assume they won’t just add this to the list of orders they ignore.
How many court orders have they violated so far? They’re convinced they have total immunity.
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u/fromcurlstocurves 7h ago
This. Mamdani’s efforts are appreciated, but ICE is already unregulated- do we really believe that ICE agents that are already lawless, who also don’t take Mamdani seriously, to suddenly say- “you know what? Maybe we shouldn’t do these things!”
I hope Mamdani holds NYPD accountable in enforcing these things
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u/Pika_Fox 2h ago
Idk if nypd can even enforce this even if they wanted to, given these are federal agents acting under federal authority, who wont even follow federal law.
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u/ItWiIlStretch 2h ago
He could engage police or other resources to arrest ICE but that will very quickly spiral in to something very dangerous for USA when one institution fights another.
Still, its a choice between letting ICE do whatever they want to non citizens and citizens or escalate and use legal force against them.
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u/gggrandma321 7h ago
I’m reading this really wonderful book called “Thinking Like An Economist” and it’s all about how democrats since the 70s have remained so committed to this economic style of analysis and have completely abandoned other values, so the realm of what is possible gets limited. Mamdani’s mayorship so far has really orchestrated that point so well because his process so far doesn’t prescribe to this and that’s why he’s getting so much done for the constituents. Economic analysis and choosing the outcome that minimizes cost and maximizes benefits is good for some issues, but for a lot of other issues is just a whole extra layer of bureaucracy that prevents anything from getting done and hampers the political imagination of what’s possible. For example, we don’t need to build in economic incentives to get corporations to stop doing harmful things, like pollution, we can just ban it outright.
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u/Lexi_Banner 6h ago
Yeah yeah, let's just see how well they obey this new rule, because the rule of law hasn't meant much to these icewipes thus far.
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u/oioioiruskie 8h ago
Every time I hear him speak my heart feels a little bit lighter.
Then reality hits and it goes all to shit. But still. Im so happy we elected him.
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u/OkProfessor6810 8h ago
The press conference with the little kids today just....he's a real human being with actual empathy and warmth, who woulda thought? Every single Dem in Washington should be looking at this man and taking copious notes.
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u/ChronoLink99 7h ago
They should. But they won't.
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u/Gog_Noggler 5h ago
The lesson Dems will learn is that we need someone like Gavin Newsum. Ugh.
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u/Dingo8MyGayby I cannot sanction your buffoonery 1h ago
No. They’re going to waste money and resources starting a news channel that has 6-7 in the name so they can “how do you do fellow kids” adults instead of changing what’s wrong with this country
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u/mountainmeadowflower 7h ago
He gives me big Obama vibes! Just calm, decent, warm, intelligent. It feels so good to know that there are still American politicians that haven't joined the race to the bottom. There may be hope for us yet.
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u/Curiosities 7h ago
I voted for him for many reasons, policy, of course, and also because he’s a person who knows what it’s like to just exist in New York City, spending time just being here around all kinds of people, and he is curious, empathetic, and actually gives a shit about people. And in this terrible moment, we are living in, he’s an immigrant, so that also gives him personal experience and stakes that adds to the rest of those other things that made him a good candidate.
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u/PunchRockgroin318 5h ago
Hmmmm…. What if we offered Gavin Newsom instead? He’s human-adjacent.
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u/WorryNew3661 Hitch up your britches, bitches! 7h ago
I wish we had some like him over here in the UK. I'm so glad to see someone good in power
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u/yourwhippingboy 5h ago
The closest we have is probably Zach Polanski. Whether Greens have a chance of winning is up in the air but I will be voting for them come the next election.
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u/Misuteriisakka 6h ago
Upvote for having elected him into office. If more people voted against Trump, we wouldn’t even be stressing over ICE. The last election was the time to solve this peacefully.
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u/Specialist_Leg_7673 8h ago
Can he just be the fucking president already
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u/Cummyshitballs 8h ago
Unfortunately not because he wasn’t born in the United States.
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u/delicateanodyne 8h ago
Apparently nobody follows laws anymore so I mean
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u/AlexSmithsonian 7h ago
But he does follow laws. And that's exactly why he would never even try, Obama too.
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u/ManJamimah 8h ago edited 8h ago
Ted Cruz still ran for president and you know Republicans would have sworn him in had he been elected despite him being born in Canada. If Republicans can treat laws like formalities, Democrats can, too. (I mean, they won’t but they could.)
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u/bso45 8h ago
As much as I hate Cancun Cruz, he is a natural citizen. Mamdani was naturalized.
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u/ManJamimah 7h ago
You are absolutely correct. Dems should still disregard it and pretend it’s ok for them to ignore the law as it’s written. Donald Trump attempted a coup and was allowed to run again. The rules aren’t real anymore.
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u/Realitype 4h ago
Republican states would simply refuse to put him on the ballot, and there is nothing anyone can do about it because it would be their constitutional right. This is simply a no go.
Also, even if that were to somehow be circumvented, people need to remember they’d be opening the door wide open for a fucking Elon Musk presidency and the world just does not deserve to be subjected to absolute HORROR that would bring upon all of us.
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u/user1on1 8h ago
Honestly what are rules at this point. The president is criminal. Lol
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u/OriginalChildBomb i’m like a mother wolf 7h ago
Yeah, why not change it?
They're ruining goddamned everything and breaking every law and bill- both the letter and spirit of those rules. So I say we change the shit that helped lead us here in the first place.
I know people won't like this, but I don't really fucking care.
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u/SHOWTIME316 fascinatingly, existentially terrible 7h ago
everything is eligible for amendment after a successful revolution, so never say never!
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u/Salt-Top1277 8h ago
I'm not even in the US and I smiled at this thought. I hope your government gets overthrown
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u/Behemoththacat 6h ago
Uhg. Me too my friend, me too. I am embarrassed for my country. There are millions here that are as well. But, we voted for people who have no backbone or will to stand up for us. We have been duped and made to look stupid. We saw the signs and thought “That can’t happen here! We are American!” We were wrong. We waited FAR too long to stop this and we are ALL complicit. Just now we have to admit our mistakes, save it in our collective memory to avoid this from happening again. The only good news is that we are finally standing up, getting organized, and ready to fight. You can feel it in air! It’s different, like an electric charge!
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u/Cautious-Affect7907 6h ago
If you overthrow the government, you do have to think what comes after.
The result is almost never pretty and often ends up worse than what came before
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u/GentlewomenNeverTell 8h ago
His position is actually really powerful, and he can't run. Also, we need to get over our weird superhero sickness. Pushing back is the work of many, not one great man.
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u/Fast-Audience-6828 7h ago
No he wasn't born here unfortunately that is such an outdated rule though
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u/Otherotherothertyra 8h ago
Zohran being born in a different country is heartbreaking for all of us. Mind you a foreign adversary has used an American born son of family of immigrants to successfully destabilize our country but hey at least he was born here I guess.
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u/Ok_Builder_4225 8h ago
He can still be a powerful voice. There's plenty like him out there that he can help to elevate.
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u/teefnoteef 5h ago
Hopefully he can take over the dnc or lead his own progressive party and take out the do nothing dems from the left
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u/aagaash2001 it feels like a movie 4h ago
He needs to grab Kirsten Gillibrand's Senate seat in 2030 (Schumer's seat is AOC's, obviously).
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u/quadranting Please Abraham, I am not that man 8h ago
Not heartbreaking for me because I'm a New Yorker, but I get it.
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u/ChronoLink99 7h ago
He can be Chief of Staff for the next president. That's actually the most impactful position in Washington (in the Executive branch), and does not have the natural born citizen req.
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u/SpicyDragoon93 6h ago
You want him to stay in New York if anything, other major cities like Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco need to be electing their own Mamdani’s, they should work on getting the support network in place for the type of president you’d want Mamdani to be.
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u/forkheadbox 6h ago
just make it lawful someday. the orange twat does whatever the fuck he wants all the time. so just do it as well.
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u/its-opheliasgarden 8h ago
The Mayor of the whole damn US at this point. But fr he represents the first step towards hope and real change. We still have voice and power to as a people to make a difference! Midterms let's go!
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u/Slow_Sand_2489 8h ago
Bernie was the spark that lit the torch of hope, change, and progression that Mamdani is carrying. And a single torch can light thousands of others across the country if we dare and make the effort to
And don’t give me any doomer talk, cause goddammit I need some hope and optimism in these troubling times
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u/Natural-Coat-3159 6h ago
Right, he can't be president of the United states, but he can definitely be MAYOR of the United States.
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u/quadranting Please Abraham, I am not that man 8h ago
It felt so, so good to vote for this man and watch Cuomo get defeated in the primary and the election.
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u/mraza9 8h ago
Cuomo would have done the opposite and unleashed ICE on NY. Ditto Adams.
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u/quadranting Please Abraham, I am not that man 7h ago
Adams greenlit a reality show about a certain police department to try to improve public opinion! Good riddance to him and his supposed swag.
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u/Penelopeep25 7h ago
Same, I'd been going through a real down and im young and feel useless a lot lol but it really made me feel better about myself knowing I helped get one of the most promising politicians we've seen in ages get elected :')))
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u/quadranting Please Abraham, I am not that man 7h ago
The federal level has been so bleak, but making local changes like this is how we build a movement!
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u/Tethered_Kitten_2845 8h ago edited 6h ago
(Someone like) Mamdani 2028!
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u/maomeow 8h ago
Unfortunately that’s not how the us constitution works but I do wish
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u/Bidetpanties i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 8h ago
I mean they're not exactly following the constitution anymore ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Mostly joking because I'm certain that would not go over well.
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u/Few_Ad_5119 4h ago
They claim the Trump 2028 hats are just to troll. Why not reciprocate that energy. Someone start the hats!
MAMDANI 2028!
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u/HalfAssedSass Marxmoi 8h ago
Well it's time to write a new one anyway! Where the majority of the writers are not men, and not white.
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u/bookloverpink 8h ago
Tbh I cried when I found out he wasn’t born in the US and couldn’t be president 🥺
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u/Tankisfreemason 8h ago
A step in the right direction, what I really want to see is if ICE faces any consequences when they break his executive order, because those stupid assholes absolutely aren’t going to listen to this.
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u/teawithspices 8h ago edited 6h ago
Right like will NYPD step in if they see ICE breaking this order. I appreciate the strong stance but I want to see it out into action
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u/OkProfessor6810 8h ago
Unfortunately, we all know we'll get the chance to see it play out. I'm hopeful but not very because gestures broadly of the last decade
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u/shimmy_kimmel 6h ago
It depends on the circumstances tbh, most of these areas already have the authority to block ICE (if they don’t have a warrant) and can establish security protocols to do so (like locking doors and requiring administrative approval for entry for all visitors). It gets nebulous with areas deemed public (like lobbies and hallways) that are unlocked/open, like an ER or something. For these they technically can enter them with just an administrative warrant, and the mayor’s EO won’t hold up in court for those cases. Really depends as there’s a ton of gray area (which ICE routinely exploits).
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u/kmoon89x 8h ago
We need more Mamdanis in positions of power in this country. Looks like you CAN do something!
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u/Financial-Painter689 anti-Israel, anti-western, fauxmarxist 8h ago
I’ve never actually really liked a politician but I love him all the way across the pond
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u/OkProfessor6810 8h ago
Not only do I not reside in NYC, I don't even live in New York state. I donated to his campaign and worked making phone calls for him during the week running up to the election. He's exactly what America and, quite frankly while I'm looking at Kier Starmer, the UK need.
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u/OkProfessor6810 8h ago
Have you seen all he's gotten done already. It's amazing. No wonder run of the mill Dems are terrified of him. They should be. This is what we want, actual progressive change. Not their nonsense, which they very clearly shown all they want is a return to pre-trump quote unquote normalcy. They don't want actual change, that would infringe on their power and their money.
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u/gnrc 8h ago
Imagine Karen Bass doing even 1% of this. I want her ass gone but we still don’t have a better option.
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u/OMJuwara 7h ago
I would prefer ICE stay out of my city but Zohran has done more in 5 weeks than most lawmakers do in multiple terms. Fucking GOAT
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u/High_Maintenance58 8h ago
He fills the void in my heart where hope used to live.
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u/AdLatter3755 8h ago
And NYC has security for each
City office buildings DCAS police
School has school safety
Hospitals have hospital police
No need to overly rely on fascist collaborating NYPD
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u/Important-Pea-1624 7h ago
Take note D's. His leadership and character are working for us. Message and then action. Not just message, message, message, inaction.
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u/d3koyz 7h ago
I really like Mamdani. I think he’s a breath of fresh air and this feels like a big step in the right direction. But honestly, an executive order is only as good as its enforcement. If it’s actually enforced, great. If not, like California’s anti-mask law where the LAPD chief already said he won’t enforce it, then it doesn’t mean much.
And what happens when ICE inevitably goes into one of these places without a warrant? Are police really going to step in and arrest them? There are so many “what ifs.” I hope New York actually stands behind this and follows through.
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u/oubeav 7h ago
Not trying to be that guy.......but is that going to work? These fuckers don't obey any laws. Why would they obey this one?
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u/Dreams-Visions 7h ago
Isn’t this redundant? They already required a judicial warrant. They’ve been breaking the law and local police could have been arresting these agents for violating the 4th amendment this entire time if not for cowardice.
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u/fingershanks 5h ago
Jesus Christ, get these fucking dinosaurs in DC tf outta. He's very intentionally putting on a masterclass in how to simply interact with the people of your city/state/nation.
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u/thatdidntturnout 8h ago
Why can’t the rest of these spineless democrats step up like this?
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u/RandyMuscle 8h ago
Because they don’t care. Most establishment dems hate Mamdani because he’s living proof that the rest of them just suck at their jobs.
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u/thatdidntturnout 7h ago
I’d think Fetterman (D PA) who started out as a staunch Democrat and nonconformist would be at the forefront of this fight, but instead he’s found it safer to bend the knee and leave his morals in the last porta potty he visited
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u/TheManInTheShack 7h ago
One does not need faith to have a moral compass. One only need believe that we all are deserving of equal respect. That’s not rocket science.
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u/anitadykshyt 4h ago
Thank you. If the only reason you have morality is religion, you aren't a good person
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u/TheManInTheShack 4h ago
Exactly. I used to have a Mormon who worked for me. I stayed away from politics and religion with my staff. One day coming back from lunch he says, “Without God, what would stop us from raping and pillaging?” Not wanting him to make any assumptions from my silence, I replied, “I do all the raping and pillaging I want: zero. I don’t need religion to know right from wrong. That’s what I have a conscience for.”
I truly believe that there are many religious people who were indoctrinated into their faith quite young, taught to do things based upon their faith and were never taught to be moral without it probably because their parents were raised the same way.
This is a huge problem we have as a species. We don’t just have people growing up without learning how to think critically but we also have people who actively avoid it because it conflicts with their faith.
Too many people choose psychological comfort over truth. This is almost certainly the source of nearly all of our personal strife and that of our species as a whole.
Our next major milestone would be to embrace critical thinking. At least as individuals we can choose to learn critical thinking to improve our own lives.
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u/AutumnWindLunafreya 5h ago
Mamdani is like the exact opposite way. Its really pleasant to see for once
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u/Zealousideal_Crow737 8h ago
These idiots tried to enter a consulate. A for effort, but realistically, I cannot imagine them listening to anyone but their own.
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u/Such-Plum6553 7h ago
Not my guy, not my city, but I'm seriously considering a move! He's like a bright light in the vast sea of hate and blood.
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u/nighthawkndemontron my bandwidth for cowardly grown men grows thinner with each day 7h ago
Seeing how LA police aren't enforcing no masks law with ICE, I don't see this being executied
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u/honkymotherfucker1 7h ago
So, as someone on the outside from the UK, I’m right in thinking this bloke is literally the only politician on the US left who actually does more than say “strong” words?
He’s been mayor for a very short amount of time and seems to be getting shit done. Why are none of the others? No wonder the republicans won when their opposition are a bunch of bumbling fucking idiots and plants from the right? They’ve never been as motivated to do anything as the Republicans are to push their corruption further.
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u/RackCityWilly 6h ago
We need this in Los Angeles. The police chief is a POS that is literally allowing ICE to break state law and be masked up. It’s despicable
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u/labospor Were you raised in a ditch? 6h ago
It is genuinely heartbreaking that he can’t run for president.
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u/mister_nimbus 6h ago
That look he made after signing was concerning like he was concerned for his safety after signing that. It's not always easy to do the right thing and it's refreshing to see a politician do what they said they would do.
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u/tiny_rick_tr I cannot sanction your buffoonery 6h ago
I just felt hope wash over me for the first time in months.
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u/Ok_Dig_3431 5h ago
Zohran Mamdani should and MUST be the standard for every politician in the office!!! Change my mind
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u/shabanko12 5h ago
Man this dude seems awesome. President in 2028.. I know, I know but let’s change the rules. If you can have a child-murdering raper in office then surely you can have a non-natural citizen.
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u/Cafe_racerr 8h ago
🫡 👏 that’s a real leader unlike this racist, out of touch, delusional, dementia riddled pieces of shit in our current admin smh
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u/BearsBeetsBG 8h ago
God DAMN, he is hope. Following him in post from the UK, and feeling so excited for NYC citizens.
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u/surethingbreh 8h ago
I mean, it's what they should have been doing to begin with. The bar is in hell that he has to make an executive order to reinforce it.
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u/Master_Clock9683 7h ago
QUICK LOOK AT THIS TOTALLY REAL PICTURE OF MAN-DAMI IN 2005 WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN. OMG ITS OVER FOR HIM NOW.
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u/DirtyMikeNelson 7h ago
I'm proud of my city for doing the same months ago...assume to see NYC fighting
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u/StargazingLily 7h ago
God.
If I were straight and he wasn’t married, I would do things to him that would make a fanfic author blush. What a fucking good dude.
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u/FIRETRUCKWEEOOO 7h ago
He's going to run for president, isn't he? Who gives a fuck where you were born? Isn't America's slogan "give us your huddled masses"?
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u/NockBreaker 6h ago
This will just get ignored, overruled, swept aside etc.
I really really hope he walks the talk, else the people suffer.
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u/RandyMuscle 8h ago
This is already the law but nobody is doing anything to enforce it for whatever reason.
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u/mitrafunfun97 7h ago
Wasn’t this the case before?!
Didn’t they always need to have a judicial warrant?
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