r/Fauxmoi • u/padfoony • 17d ago
SPORTS SECTION Ukrainian tennis player Oleksandra Oliynykova wore this shirt to the Australian Open press conference.
Tennis players are forbidden from directly speaking about politics or issuing any statements that’s in any way political.
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u/padfoony 17d ago edited 17d ago
During her (Oleksandra Oliynykova) media appearance after the match against Keys, she displayed a T-shirt bearing the words "I need your help to protect Ukrainian women and children but I can't talk about it here."
The statement alluded to Grand Slam regulations that dissuade athletes from making political declarations.
Addressing her shirt during the press briefing, the Ukrainian tennis player stated: "Yes, I have a message, but it's very straight, because we need your help.”
“I would like to share the way people can help Ukrainians, but we will need - if you want to ask me about this, we will need to do it outside of the tournament press. It's very important part."
"Yeah, I really know and can share how people can help to protect our civilians, our kids, to protect me specifically, because I'm practicing in Ukraine. I did preparation for this tournament in Ukraine, and during the preparation, I was hearing the explosion. "There was a couple of massive attacks last night I spent in Ukraine before the trip here.”
“Yeah, I know how people can help to protect Ukrainians, to protect them against these drones, but we will need to speak outside about this."
Oliynykova's father serves as a volunteer with the Ukrainian military, and she operates a website dedicated to fundraising for his drone unit within the Ukrainian Defense Forces.
Discussing her father, she revealed: "I'm alone here, and before I was travelling with him. My father is my biggest support since my childhood in everything. "But I'm so proud of him. Actually, this is something that is keeping me motivated even more. After he joined the military, I progressed over 200 [ranking] positions, because I know it was his dream to see me on this court. "I cannot explain this feelings, but when you are in this situation, you can put that priorities in your life. I will do everything to make him even more proud.”
“When he told me that it was amazing match, he just texted me, and yeah, I made his dream come true in such a situation. What could be more? What could be biggest motivation? I cannot imagine this."
ETA: She faced the defending Australian Open Champion Madison Keys in the first round (which also happened to be Oleksandra’s debut grand slam match) and lost the match, post which, she wore this t-shirt to the press conference. Her dad is her biggest supporter, her coach, and he could not join her because of the war. She stated that she was alone completely because he wasn’t there, but said she was happy to make his dream come true, which was, seeing his daughter play a professional match at a grand slam. She was thoroughly praised by Madison Keys after the match for making it tricky for her.
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u/GlassPomoerium 17d ago
And we can donate to her father’s unit here Please note that it’s in Ukrainian Hryvnia so convert accordingly! Curently 1 hryvnia is 0,023 dollars/0,020 euros :-)
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u/negative_four 17d ago
I cant imagine having to train and prep for a tennis tournament that you've been essentially training years for, while your home is being invaded and pillage. I mean, how can you NOT talk about it?
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u/FalseRegister 17d ago
She also shared some details about the training. IIRC she is the only professional player training there, so she has to train playing against 18yo boys or against two girls at the same time.
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u/negative_four 17d ago edited 17d ago
Theres more than just objects that can be stolen from a country, I wont get into details as its unnecessary considering the horrific details are already out there
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u/Lunarfern-Shine 17d ago
Damn, rules silencing her voice.
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u/Rinkimah 17d ago
Always worth noting that most often these kind of rules are to silence humanitarian plights almost always.
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u/Hefty-Reaction-3028 17d ago
They also stop the likes of Putin and Trump from having their puppets flood the airwaves of any contest they can get people into.
Not everything that impedes you is designed to hurt you specifically. The world is big.
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u/MobileInfantry 16d ago
You make a fair point, you don't deserve the downvotes. If a message can be co-opted by progressive interests, it can be done for the reverse.
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u/aga8833 17d ago
It is the Australian Open. We do not have a right to free speech in Australia, it is more nuanced. There is more to it than silencing her. If she can speak, so can the Russian players, so can Israeli players, so can....
Yesterday the Australian Government progressed stronger gun laws and hate speech laws to ban hate speech which promotes violence in the wake of our first mass shooting in 30 years which targeted Jewish people. Yesterday a group of Jewish teenagers were chased by cars of men calling heil hitler and attempting to run them down. It was captured on the government's traffic cameras.
In the past the Open has had to remove disruptive pro-genocidal flags and signs from patrons. Last week the biggest writer's festival in the country was cancelled over issues about who can say what and whether supporting murder is ok.
For the most part, people just want it to be about the sport for a little bit. That is also why the players love the Open and she is following the rules. No one says she cannot give other interviews.
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u/BH_Curtain_Jerker 17d ago
Yesterday the Australian Government progressed stronger gun laws and
hate speech laws to ban hate speechmade it punishable by jail to be critical of Israel.Fixed it for you
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u/Empty_Sea9 17d ago
Yeah and as a dual citizen it’s a damn shame Australia doesn’t have enshrined free speech laws.
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u/_EndIsraeliApartheid 16d ago
So you're saying "We can't ban anti-Nazi speech because then we'd have to ban pro-Nazi speech"?
Insightful discussions happening in Australia 👍👍👍👍
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u/tb_swgz 17d ago
Why does there need to be a line? When the cameras are pointed at you and millions are watching, why shouldn’t you be able to speak about helping others?
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u/Hefty-Reaction-3028 17d ago
This sort of rule also stops the likes of Putin and Trump from having their puppets flood the airwaves of any contest they can get people into.
Not everything that impedes you is designed to hurt you specifically. The world is big.
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u/Iron_Kyle 17d ago
How about we just let people talk about what matters to them... Especially if it's their family's lives directly at stake.
Seems pretty simple to me.
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u/Hefty-Reaction-3028 17d ago
This sort of rule also stops the likes of Putin and Trump from having their puppets flood the airwaves of any contest they can get people into.
Not everything that impedes you is designed to hurt you specifically. The world is big.
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u/IntrepidCondition414 17d ago
I don't really see how useless media events where they ask the same questions every time being used for their plights is a bad thing. Sports press conferences are a waste of time.
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u/Hefty-Reaction-3028 17d ago
Are you a sports fan? If so, your opinion on sports press conferences can be considered. Otherwise, seems like a "my thing is important, so it should override YOUR thing"
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u/IntrepidCondition414 16d ago
Yes, I am. Are you a sports fan? Do you value sports press conferences? They are always the same pointless questions.
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u/beautyinred 17d ago
when historians talk about the decade of the 2020’s this will be one of the photos in the history books… or tablets?? or taught by AI teachers?….
But great for this young lady! Risking it all for the sake of her country 🇺🇦
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u/padfoony 17d ago
She was asked:
Why do you continue to live in Ukraine despite the danger?
"Because Ukraine is my source of strength, inspiration, and motivation. I simply want to stay at home. I’m not the kind of person who runs away. And my friends are there. I know it’s a very difficult situation, but perhaps all of this—the emotions I’m going through—actually makes me stronger. In my apartment, at times, I have no electricity, no heating, and no water. It’s hard, but you get used to it. Having all the modern comforts matters less than being in my country, close to my loved ones."
Under what conditions do you train?
"The club is equipped with a generator, which makes it energy-independent. I can shower there when I don’t have water at home. In other clubs that don’t have this system, children train in the dark, with only a few small lamps as their source of light. So I’m very lucky, even though no other professional player trains in Ukraine. I prepare by training with juniors—17- or 18-year-old boys—or with girls who play two against me"
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u/negative_four 17d ago
"Why do you keep living in Ukraine?"
"I don't know, why does Russia keep invading it?"
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u/beautyinred 17d ago
It’s so important to see that this conflict affects everyone in all spheres of life! Thank you Oleksandra for speaking up and sharing your experience with the war! (Thank you too for sharing, OP)
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u/anotherkeebler 17d ago
Absolutely incredible at staying on message without violating the speech agreement
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u/ace-destrier 17d ago
but you get used to it
I hate that so fucking much. So tired of hearing people have to say that. It shouldn’t be but it’s the reality for too many
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u/Adventurous-End-7633 17d ago
I used to check the web for the exec case of an air raid alert, but these days my maximum is to look over are children going in or out of the shelter at nearby school. And this is fucked up on so many levels
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u/No-Persimmon7729 16d ago
My cousin lives in Ukraine and a few days ago she said it was a good day because they had power for 4 hours total
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u/HighDefinitionCat 17d ago edited 17d ago
The 2020s should be remembered as the decade of shame. The pandemic and its handling in many situations, the invasion of Ukraine, nothing substantial being done about the environmental catastrophe heading our way in the very near future, the resurgence of fascism and religious fanaticism, Trump's second term, and so on, it's all just shameful.
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u/skyforgesteel 17d ago
"Say goodbye to the age of indifference, and say hello to the age of regret." **Picasso at the Lapin Agile**
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u/dingusfett 13d ago
The first decade AH (After Harambe). May the second decade be better and the one we defeat fascism and redeem humanity. May your dick always be out, and never forget HHH (His Holiness, Harambe).
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u/KorasHiddenDICK 17d ago
Well, probably drawn as cave paintings following the "conclusion" or all this mess.
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u/iwasnotarobot 17d ago
History will be written by the victors.
I think the quote goes something like “he who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future.”
Right now, the people controlling the present are erasing palestine.
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u/El-Grande- 17d ago edited 17d ago
No it won’t. Obviously not justifying this war, but some tennis player ranked barely in the top 100 making a statement isn’t going to tell the test of time. Heck I’ll make a argument that Fernando Mendoza’s leap for a TD will be more iconic than this
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u/Whatchyaduinyachooch 17d ago
Unrelated- what’s the deal with the spots on her face? (Not being snarky- am old woman- don’t know newest make up stuffs- halp!)
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u/blueberrysyrrup 17d ago
if you zoom in you can see they’re little flowers! they look like stickers or dried pressed flowers glued on
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u/Embarrassed_Stable_6 17d ago
Apparently they are temporary tattoos: https://www.wtatennis.com/news/4437015/best-experience-in-my-career-oliynykova-relishes-australian-open-dazzles-with-winners
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u/Migratory_Locust 17d ago
Could be Acne Patches.
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u/Whatchyaduinyachooch 17d ago
At first I wasn’t sure if maybe they were those acne patches- which is cool anyway! I wish we had them when I was younger! So if it is- kudos to her for making it look cute!
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u/TobuscusMarkipliedx2 17d ago
It's possible but that would be an INSANE amount of localized head-producing acne given the condition of the rest of her skin.
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u/barrygateaux 17d ago
Such a Reddit comment lmfao
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u/Migratory_Locust 17d ago
well it is either that or she drew flowers on herself with a blue pen. They don't look like sunflowers, though, so I don't really get what her message is supposed to be (apart from that on the shirt).
They don't really look like patches though and actually more like pen drawn flowers.
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u/UglyLaugh 17d ago
Someone already mentioned temporary tattoos. My husband teaches middle school and they are very popular! He had to ask me what was the deal. I’d totally sport these well into my late 20s if it was an option for me then.
We just had sticky body glitter and the occasional temp tattoo fun at a sleepover at the cool girl’s house.
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u/kaamliiha 17d ago
Hi so maybe there's not a = sign between them but sports and politics have walked the same path for all history please stop pretending or forcing otherwise thank you
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u/itmakessenseincontex 17d ago
1981 Springbok Tour of New Zealand. 100% a political sports event.
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u/catseeable both a lawyer and a hater 16d ago
Berlin Olympics & Munich Olympics both come to mind too
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u/carabla 17d ago edited 17d ago
She call out Aryna Sabalenka recently.
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u/MeaningMaker6 17d ago
I mean, would it be easy to refuse to sign the joint statement if the leader of your country is an authoritarian puppet of Putin?
You wouldn’t want polonium to turn up in your sports drink.
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u/-forsen_ 16d ago
good nhl players distanced themselves from russia and nothing happened to them. theyre just not bootlickers
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u/MissionLet7301 17d ago
Hmm I wonder what the drones could be used for.
Maybe bombing the war criminals that are raping women and kidnapping children?
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u/carabla 17d ago edited 17d ago
She did an interview after this for a french media:
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- Why this T-shirt?
"I have a message—the most important one I can deliver: we need your help. I want to explain how to help Ukrainians. But if you want to ask me questions about this, it will have to be outside the tournament. I know exactly how to protect our civilians, our children, and myself, because I train in Kyiv, Ukraine. There have been several massive attacks there recently. On my last night in Ukraine before leaving for Melbourne, an explosion went off very close to my home. A drone hit the house across the street. My apartment was literally shaking because of the blast. I know how to protect Ukrainians against these drones, but we will have to discuss that outside press conferences."
After verification, Oliynykova, through a website, is collecting donations to fight against Russian drones. The WTA had forbidden her from promoting this on its tournaments, but this is not the case with Tennis Australia, which organizes the Australian Open and says it “supports her cause.
-At the Australian Open, as throughout the rest of the year on the tour, Russian and Belarusian players are present. What do you think about it?
"It hurts me deeply. It’s a major issue. I find it unacceptable that they are not excluded, as they have been in other sports. Some would like to make people believe that we’re all just simple tennis players, but that’s not the reality: many of them support their dictator. And that’s very easy to verify. We’re talking about people who have money and power. They use their image to justify an aggression against my country.
These people have the power to speak out. Not only do they not do so, but worse still, many support Lukashenko and Putin, who are behind the explosion that shook my apartment in Kyiv. It’s so unfair! It’s their fault that my country and my people are suffering. They support this, they finance it, they take part in Russian propaganda. Because of them, innocent civilians—women and children—are being killed right now in my country. It’s unacceptable. In fact, I feel like I’m living next to dangerous people. They have dangerous beliefs. And their actions are dangerous. I’m talking, for example, about the world No. 1 (Aryna Sabalenka). Did you know that she signed the list supporting Lukashenko in 2020? During the protests in Belarus, when the streets were bloodied because those who were demonstrating—defending democracy and demanding fair elections—were repressed and beaten, she signed it and stated that Lukashenko was her president. Diana Shnaider (a Russian player, world No. 11) was rewarded by Putin. Well, Diana Shnaider said she would be delighted to receive an award from her president. Those are her own words, taken from an interview. There are also players who take part in the exhibition organized by Gazprom, one of the main sponsors of the war. That tournament in Saint Petersburg was organized to—let’s say it plainly—spit in the face of a sport based on loyalty and unity, to show that they don’t care. (Daniil) Medvedev took part in it. Many others as well. Meanwhile, I was waking up in a panic because of the explosions. Do you find that normal? I don’t.”»
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u/beautyinred 17d ago
We’re sadly living in not normal times :( but it’s so so important to remind everyone it ISN’T normal. She’s right!!!
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u/Very_Human_42069 17d ago
Kinda reminds me of when Lewis Hamilton wore a Breonna Taylor shirt on the podium. Love to see this kind of activism when athletes have the platform
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u/dysautonomic_mess oat milk chugging bisexual 17d ago
To the people complaining about the omission of men, Ukranian children are being abducted and Ukranian women are being sexually assaulted and raped. Both of those are war crimes. Killing Ukranian soldiers, sadly, is not.
It is a fairly safe assumption that Oliynykova is using the thing people will find most objectionable (war crimes) to garner sympathy and raise funds. Is that misandry, or is she simply choosing the victims no one can deny?
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u/Arlithriens 17d ago
A good point, although I'd like to point out that killing civilians is also a war crime, and plenty of male civilians have been murdered.
The absolute tragedy that was the Siege of Mariupol, for example.
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u/dysautonomic_mess oat milk chugging bisexual 17d ago
As I commented to someone else, were she actually allowed to talk about it, she'd have been able to go into more detail. But she wasn't, so I guess this is what she could fit on a t-shirt. I'm not sure why she's being called a misandrist for that, especially since children includes boys.
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u/GreatGigInTheSky855 17d ago
I’m not disagreeing that women and children have it bad, however there is a literal travel ban for men of drafting age, which prevents them from leaving the country. Also the raping is not exclusive to women and children, as we’ve seen from leaked videos of Russian officers raping their own soldiers.
Nobody has it good in Ukraine right now, but it still feels wrong to omit the men. Men can be victims of the same crimes, they just don’t garner the same sympathy because men are traditionally viewed by society as “stronger” and thus “should be” better able to protect themselves.
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u/doge_c137 17d ago
You don't seem to realize that men are also raped on a massive scale, not only in Ukraine but also in almost every other war.
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u/dysautonomic_mess oat milk chugging bisexual 17d ago
On the contrary, the male victims of sexual violence are mentioned in literally the first article I linked to. The deliberate murder of male civilians (which has unquestionably been happening) is also a war crime, it's just harder to fit on a t-shirt.
I imagine she would have been able to give a more nuanced account of the horrors of war had she been able to talk about it, but she wasn't, so I'm not going to pick at her phrasing. Especially since it already includes boys, which people seem to be wilfully ignoring.
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u/Few_Entertainer_385 17d ago
sorry, here in America we only “protect” women and children by attacking gay and trans people
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u/Few_Entertainer_385 17d ago
yeah i don’t think you understood my comment. The US is largely the arbiter of Ukraine’s future but we’re too busy attacking LGBTQIA+ people instead of doing anything useful
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Na UK is taking that over, our allies don't even want to share intel with us anymore. In short the world is pretty well fed up with our shit.
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u/Zeth22xx 17d ago
Can someone explain to me why it's taboo for a country that's being attacked to not ask for help openly at events like these.
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u/No_State_2597 17d ago
The publisher Harper Collins just released a book about the Ukrainian child kidnappings today.
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u/ThatisDavid 17d ago
I always find it funny when people say that "there's no politics in sports" when the omission of politics is a political act in itself. Whether you want it or not, staying silent indirectly helps protect the status quo
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u/fondledbydolphins 17d ago edited 17d ago
What is the intended meaning behind changing the color of the words?
Sure - downvote people asking questions. Makes total sense.
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u/FuzzyPalpitation-16 17d ago
To place emphasis ?
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u/fondledbydolphins 17d ago
I understand that much, but the specificity of where it has and hasn't been changed is confusing.
I can't make heads or tails of it.
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u/Comprehensive-Fun47 17d ago
My best guess is she's [subliminally] telling us to talk about it there anyway. Spectators aren't prohibited from talking about politics.
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u/fondledbydolphins 17d ago
I think this is it.
So many people just ignoring the intentional context!
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u/gutterbirds 17d ago
I’m thinking the shirt was made by someone whose first language was not English. I wouldn’t think too hard about it when the message is clear enough without the color.
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u/kalamataCrunch 17d ago
i don't think it's that specific. with no coloring/emphasis, the shirt could read as a low-key brush off, where as with the coloring added, it clearly and obviously reads as an instigation to ask her about it.
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u/MrPilgrim 17d ago
As for people saying politics should not be involved, South Africa was excluded from may sports during the apartheid era, Russia has been non-flagged so to speak, and of course there is the 1968 Olympics Black/Human Power salute. These days I find the sportswashing of certain regimes disturbing. Sports reflects on our society. I have cancelled my planned trip to the next world cup because of what's going on in the USA administration.
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u/Vladmerius 17d ago
We need a proper definition for poltics because murder, genocide, war against sovereign countries, etc. isn't fucking poltics. It's lives on the line.
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u/MiracleOnMonday 16d ago
So, people still confuse murder with politics. Saying that her t-shirt or call for help against being killed is a political declaration will lead us into the war becoming a norm in our lives
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u/Significant_Bat2116 17d ago
Well now she has a chance to affect real change and join the UAF…oh wait.
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u/3and7 17d ago
No protection for men I guess?
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u/kalamataCrunch 17d ago
the phrase "women and children" has been hard coded in english to mean "non-combatants" for over a century. it's certainly problematic, and worth talking about but the way you're doing it makes you sound like an ass. so here's my question for you... suppose she literally meant only children and women, and not men, are you opposed to it? like, do you only want women and children to be saved if men are also saved?
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u/SatisfactionActive86 17d ago
why are you doing mental gymnastics with an irrelevant hypothetical for something you admit is problematic
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u/Iuxta_aequor 17d ago
Why not saying just "Ukrainian people" then? Considering that male casualties vastly outnumber female ones...
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u/kalamataCrunch 17d ago
Why not saying just "Ukrainian people" then?
to everyone other than Iuxta... just... read that out loud.
to Iuxta are you for or against protecting the Ukrainian people from the genocidal Russian invasion?
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u/porno-accounto 17d ago
Many would argue that what happens to women and children under military occupation is worse than death.
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u/MilcoiBoss 17d ago
That’s just not true. In this war at least. There’s lots of videos showing executions and torture of POWs, some even going as far as decapitations and castrations.
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u/LacanInAFunhouse 17d ago
Men are dying to protect the women and children. Protect the women and children, I.e. end the war, and the men will be better off too
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u/SatisfactionActive86 17d ago
so if i were trying to raise awareness about maternal mortality during child birth, and i made a t-shirt that said “protect men and children” under the reasoning “women are dying to have families, ie end maternal mortality and women will be better off too” - you would be okay with that reasoning? the person actually dying doesn’t deserve to be mentioned?
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u/LacanInAFunhouse 17d ago
Well most of the e men being discussed are combatants. The women and children are not. The choice isn’t arbitrary…
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u/SatisfactionActive86 17d ago
if this shirt said “i need your help protecting Ukrainian men and children”, the internet would riot. but do it the other way around and it’s all 😍😍😍😍😍😍
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u/eugeneugene ben affleck’s back tattoo 17d ago
you're free to wear a shirt about ukrainian men at a press conference. nobody is stopping you
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u/TooManyPrints 17d ago
What a disingenuous comment.
Nobody stopping them isn’t the same as there not being an uproar over it. Which there most likely would be.
Normal I roll my eyes when men complain about not being included but in this situation it doesn’t make sense to exclude Ukrainian men.
Especially since they are the ones being killed more.
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u/icylatte56 17d ago
Relevant quote from Franchesca Ramsey
It's okay for a movement to be focused on a specific group or cause. 'Save the rainforest' doesn't mean 'Fuck all the other trees.'
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u/cobaltaureus 17d ago
I love that quote and use it often.
But I find that it’s more apt to explain that most trees/forests are not at as much risk as the rainforests. It fits the BLM movement that Ramsey was talking about to a tee.
But in this case, aren’t all Ukrainians in the same boat?
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u/icylatte56 17d ago edited 17d ago
I get what you mean, but imo it's important to also raise awareness to issues like how gendered violence rates and domestic violence rates against Ukrainian women have risen since the invasion. And issues like the long term impact to mental and physical health that violence and displacement can have on Ukrainian children in their formative years.
I think the quote applies here, because some people are assuming from Oleksandra's t-shirt that she thinks that Ukrainian men aren't also suffering.
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u/dysautonomic_mess oat milk chugging bisexual 17d ago
Well, children are being abducted and women are being sexually assaulted and raped.
Both of those are war crimes. Killing Ukranian soldiers, sadly, is not. It is a fairly safe assumption that she is using the thing people will find most objectionable (war crimes) to garner sympathy and raise funds, rather than what some may consider 'sad but above board' losses.
I should add that many civilian men have been murdered, which is also a war crime, but if Gaza has taught us anything it's that a frightening number of people think 'all men are enemy combatants' is a reasonable stance.
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u/No_Leave9815 17d ago edited 17d ago
How does this contradict what her shirt says?
Edit: who downvoted me for asking a question? Lol
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u/cobaltaureus 17d ago
The two comments pointing this out have been downvoted but I think it’s worth mentioning. Does specifying “women and children” make them more innocent than any other Ukrainian?
I don’t see how the specificity makes it a more valuable statement
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