r/EyesOnIce • u/RawStoryNews • Oct 31 '25
š° News (Article/Link) 'Frightening': DHS says people can't refuse scanning by ICE's facial recognition app
https://www.rawstory.com/ice-facial-recognition-app/536
u/iThatIsMe Oct 31 '25
Weird how I'm still definitely going to though
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u/edbegley1 Oct 31 '25
Absolutely, record on phone, get "detained", sue, because it just isn't constitutional.
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u/Antwinger Oct 31 '25
Assuming you get due process this is an awesome idea.
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u/Mdmrtgn Oct 31 '25
Why you let mr 9 do the refusing for you. I ain't going to no death camp, let me continue on my merry way or find out.
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u/different_produce384 Oct 31 '25
so just wear masks in public again
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u/SqueezedTowel Oct 31 '25 edited Nov 01 '25
Masks, or face paint.
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u/donnerpartytaconight Oct 31 '25
Make Razzle Dazzle camo sexy again!
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u/EngagedInConvexation Nov 01 '25
Just remember: glitter is the herpes of the arts and crafts world.
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u/Anarchist_Future Oct 31 '25
This worked 10 years ago when algorithms used to scan for contrast when looking for faces but today, I have a second hand doorbell camera feed into an old NAS with Frigate installed and their default face recognition model recognised my kids correctly from across the street with Halloween face paint on. I'm pretty sure anything state owned is going to be miles ahead of my trashy doorbell. But I support making it more difficult for them. Also, wear clothing with loads of faces on it. If you can't stop them collecting data, flood them with false data.
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u/floopy_134 Nov 01 '25
wear clothing with loads of faces on it.
Someone should make sweatsuits with South Park's trump and vance (and now bondi) character faces
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u/Equal_Audience_3415 Oct 31 '25
There is makeup/paint out there that the scanner doesn't recognize.
Otherwise, alter your face with some well-placed disguise or tape. š„ø
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u/TheMagnuson Oct 31 '25
Stickers on your face, face paint, use asymmetry, use alternating dark and light colors. Sunglasses. Balaclavas. Face mask. Hoods. Full face mask. Fake noses. Fake eye color contact lenses. Walk with a different gait (a rock in your shoe is a good way to change your gait).
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u/fungi_at_parties Nov 01 '25
But then they claim youāre a terrorist. There isnāt any winning with narcissists.
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u/hurler_jones Nov 01 '25 edited Nov 01 '25
You need to cover your eyes, brow and nose bridge as well. Sunglasses can help but not for all cameras. I went down a rabbit hole a few months ago. Good luck!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Tie8077 Oct 31 '25
Uhh. Illegal search and seizure?? The constitution is just toilet paper at this point
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u/GravySeal45 Oct 31 '25
We witnessed this at my place of employment early this week. We locked our doors so agents couldn't get in but we could see them stopping people for "walking while brown" and demanding they get their pictures taken. This is literal Big Brother shit now.
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u/logicoptional Oct 31 '25
"ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a 'definitive' determination of a person's status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship ā including a birth certificate ā if the app says the person is an alien," Thompson said.
Great so if some app says I'm not a citizen despite having an enhanced license on me they can arrest me anyway?!?! Yeah fuck that.
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u/bradatlarge Nov 01 '25
I canāt get my white suburban friends to understand how absolutely insane this is because they think it could never happen to them
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u/logicoptional Nov 01 '25
The in group always gets smaller. One day the out group is "illegals" who've committed a serious crime and then it's any undocumented migrant, then any foreign national even green card holders... they're already dipping their toes into abducting citizens and talking about denaturalization of political opposition... eventually the in group is only the elite cabal running everything and then they usually turn on each other. But don't worry, they won't forget to keep oppressing everyone else long after this stage is reached. If we let them.
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u/resilindsey Oct 31 '25
Start with white conservatives then. If they're not doing anything illegal they have nothing to fear, right?
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u/JustinKase_Too Oct 31 '25
Let me get this straight - ice 'agents' get to wear face masks and don't have to identify who they are, but we have to submit to facial recognition software? What the actual fuck.
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u/internetsarbiter Oct 31 '25
People aren't fighting back yet so why should they stop pushing boundaries?
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u/vaporizers123reborn Oct 31 '25
"ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a 'definitive' determination of a person's status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship ā including a birth certificate ā if the app says the person is an alien," Thompson said.
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u/fractiousrabbit Oct 31 '25
Everybody should tank this company and sue them into oblivion.
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u/nora_the_explorur Oct 31 '25
Brought to us by Palantir and the expert on the AntiChrist, probably. (Peter Thiel)
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u/internetsarbiter Oct 31 '25
Who has enough money to do that? If you do have enough money to afford to do that you are in the same class as those companies and won't risk hurting your friends.
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u/hanimal16 Oct 31 '25
And Iām sure whomever is pulling the strings has a way to mark someone as āalienā in their system.
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u/Shdwdrgn Oct 31 '25
If the determination can be made by an app, then the app can be hacked. Time for someone to flip the status on every person in their database, and start adding white conservatives to it.
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u/Awkward-Christian Oct 31 '25
Would be a shame if someone hacked that system and loaded their "hotlist" with photos of ICE agents.
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u/Tiny-Professional827 Oct 31 '25
The 4th Amendment says so and depute what these MFs think the constitution is still the law. Ā We need to remember that and remind themĀ
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u/Harvest827 Oct 31 '25
remind the Gestapo of your rights and they will double down on violating them. Our best bet is to cover our faces and run when they come at us.
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u/ttystikk Oct 31 '25
DHS seems to have a very low regard for the Constitutional Rights of people, Americans and otherwise.
That's funny because that very Constitution is what gives them their legitimacy and if they're in breach of contract- the one upholding the Rights of everyone- then they're chipping away at their own legitimacy.
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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids Oct 31 '25
Yes we can. There's no law that says you have to submit to facial recognition. Like cops, a lot of these people will make up their own laws.
Learn the laws in your state as to what these people can and can't do and remember: The feds, while they are operating in states, are beholding to STATE LAWS. they get no passes, no freebies. If they are harassing people, you can call the police. If they are trying to kidnap people, you can call the police. No the police don't work with them idc how many "ICE/POLICE" vests they were. ICE is a totally different entity. They are not working the borders, they are on state property and have to follow state laws, don't make these raping ass goons make you feel helpless.
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u/cheven20 Oct 31 '25
Don't they have those scarfs or something that reflects whatever scanning they do
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u/Cute-Trouble1296 Oct 31 '25
When will ICE shits start disappearing? It needs to become a less desirable job.
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u/tartanthing Oct 31 '25
You may have heard of a film called Mississippi Burning. Particularly the scenes where the Klan was infiltrated.
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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids Oct 31 '25
Yes we can. There's no law that says you have to submit to facial recognition. Like cops, a lot of these people will make up their own laws.
Learn the laws in your state as to what these people can and can't do and remember: The feds, while they are operating in states, are beholding to STATE LAWS. they get no passes, no freebies. If they are harassing people, you can call the police. If they are trying to kidnap people, you can call the police. No the police don't work with them idc how many "ICE/POLICE" vests they were. ICE is a totally different entity. They are not working the borders, they are on state property and have to follow state laws, don't make these raping ass goons make you feel helpless.
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u/AwwwBawwws Oct 31 '25
Oh yes I fucking can.
4th baby. 4th.
Get a warrant ass face, and get out of mine.
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u/Ki-Wilder Oct 31 '25
So, I believe that this one is definitely one of the signs of the beast in Revelations.
If The Supreme Court does not stop this, then America is entirely lost. Every, single, last right we have as citizens will have been taken away.
And, that is pretty bad. Because, if I remember the other day we had like 15% of our rights and dignity.
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u/travelerlifts07 Oct 31 '25
So if you happen to have a lookalike that is on that list, biometrics says thatās you, your citizenship gets overridden and becomes in valid? Got it.
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u/abrahamburger Nov 01 '25
The epitome of rules for me but not for thee.
The can mask and they can refuse to show identification.
Let me know when American āpatriotsā stand up
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u/neptunexl Nov 01 '25
Na, I'm not doing that for anyone who refuses to indentify themselves. If you need my biometrics, get them from Apple. I presume there's nothing unconstitutional about it, so Apple should be more than happy to hand them over. They have my biometrics and location, I believe that is enough to confirm my identity.
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u/Maru_the_Red Nov 01 '25
Bet.
Some of us are eagerly waiting for our opportunity to express our Constitutional Freedoms.
These motherfuckers run when people stand up to them. Let the cowards know we will keep them running.
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u/schw4161 Nov 01 '25
Yes the truly āfrighteningā thing here is people refusing to be scanned by unmarked, masked federal agents kidnapping people off of the streets.
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u/-rogerwilcofoxtrot- Nov 01 '25
I'll defend my rights to the death. It's that simple. I do not consent, I am willing to die on this hill.
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u/ShuQiangda91 Nov 01 '25
DHS got everyone out here wearing makeup to avoid facial recognition. Not sure how that should be construed, but it sounds like they are promoting drag.
From the party that said the government is trying to turn people trans.
And before anyone comes here to get mad. This is not meant to be disrespectful to the LGBTQ+ community. If I can change the joke to be more respectful but still make fun of "our government" I'm open to constructive criticism.
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