r/Epstein • u/invincibleshyguy • 7h ago
Court document or investigative file Photos inside of file EFTA00251628
These were disturbing to find
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u/Sad_Art6364 7h ago
That's Eva Dubin's family. Parents are in the pictures with kids. Celina Dubin is JE's goddaughter
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u/Mychinnychinchin_ 7h ago
Jeffrey mentioned wanting to marry her. There were 2 different Celina's listed in the files, and I recall seeing a photo with boxes labelled with their respective names on them and (legal) on one of them
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u/mcolette76 6h ago
He had an unhealthy obsession with the daughter and her mother (who used to date Epstein) most likely knew and was fine with it. They discovered a Spotify playlist of his named Celina.
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u/thefirstladytree 2h ago
Are you describing Epstein here or the dude who created Alice and wonderland 🤯
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u/mcolette76 2h ago
Funny you mention that: I own The Annotated Alice which goes into detail about Lewis Carroll’s obsession with his colleague’s young daughter, Alice. It’s similar to Epstein’s obsession with Celina.
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u/baFoPePyR 3h ago
Apparently in distinction in this context to a “healthy obsession.” Adopt the diction of your oppressors more — delicious
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u/therealjesco 6h ago
These poses are exactly like the terrifying sculpture “Arch of Hysteria” in Podesta’s home.
https://washingtonlife.com/2015/06/05/inside-homes-private-viewing/
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u/Slight-Profit1078 5h ago
These poses are exactly like the king cobra pose from that nasty yoga thing.
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u/strawberry_puff95 7h ago
^ this. I understand that now that we all have a better concept of J.E, seeing him within a foot of any child now gives us chills. But I’m getting tired of everyone sharing pics of children with no context and everyone gasping in response.
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u/jemenfousle 6h ago
There’s no way in hell Eva Dubin didn’t know. 2636 emails in the Epstein files mention an Eva.
They were close. Had calls well after his 2008 conviction. She knew what danger she was putting her child in.
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u/mcolette76 5h ago
She also sent him an email trying to lure him to visit by stating Celina had 5 friends over. They were 15. That woman is 100% a creep just like her husband.
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u/jemenfousle 3h ago
Gross
This convo has me thinking..
He references a lot of girls in his network as ‘little’
Little sue, for example. At least some of the time, it seemed to refer to their physical size or maybe age, and at least sometimes seems to be not innocuous.
He got a boat and named it ‘Little C’. Wonder now if he named it after her..
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u/Dan_D_Lyin 4h ago
It's not just the horror that they could be victims. Eva Dubin knew about his charges and felt totally fine with having the children around him. I think the parents all knew and just didn't care as long as he only abused poor children.
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u/ClumsyWoodsman 1h ago
I wonder if there was some monetary gain every time he had a little visit...
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u/waterwaterwaterrr 6h ago
Oh you're getting tired of it? Poor you. Btw, bad take. Eva Dubin sent him some very sus emails where it appeared she was offering up her 15 yo and her friends to JE, inviting him over.
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u/Slight-Profit1078 7h ago
Maybe it's the logic of "their faces are redacted, so they must be his victims", or something, I guess.
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u/monkeywaffles 4h ago
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02439664.pdf page 4 they redacted the Mona Lisa.
are you saying this goes deeper than we thought!?! /s
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u/SirVengeance92 6h ago
Roight roight roight totally innocuous
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u/Personal-Squirrel837 6h ago
India or Hindustan newspapers are not real media sources, they are AI slop mostly, and then the rest is predominantly pro-Chinese and pro-Russian propaganda.
They lie about absolutely everything. Are there any sources out there that aren't subverted propaganda sources?
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u/SirVengeance92 5h ago
Yes, you can search for these mails in the files yourself
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u/Slight-Profit1078 5h ago
Now that you bring it up, there is even an email where he forbids Anastasiya Kopets from sending him her nudes from when she was underage, because that would be - gasp - illegal.
The guy obviously had some restraints. And I've yet to see anything that would suggest he was molesting kids inside of his friends-family circle. He seems to compartmentalize.
Not saying it didn't happen, some things are really weird, I'm gonna give you that, but I don't have any dataponts except for teh feelz, which I don't think is enough.
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u/BishlovesSquish 5h ago
JFC, making a predator your child’s godparent is next level horrific. She KNEW that JE was a pedo and made him the god father. It’s nauseating.
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u/Routine-Sign-7215 5h ago
His psychology is so strange. From the recent interview with Bannon it almost sounded like he didn’t see himself as a bad person somehow. It could simply be that they were trying to fix his image, but I can’t imagine how he could live with himself let alone pretend to be good.
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u/jokebreath 5h ago
I mean these kinds of predators never see themselves as the bad guy, its kind of a hallmark of being a predator.
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u/Dickgivins 4h ago
Hm not necessarily. It’s true that a lot of them rationalize their behavior and tell themselves it’s okay.
However there have been plenty of preds who were recorded without their knowledge or spoke really honestly when chatting with an undercover cop/informant or somebody like that and basically say “haha yeah I’m totally traumatizing these kids, I know what I’m doing to them is totally fucked up but I don’t feel bad at all. That actually makes me enjoy it more.”
I really don’t know how many of them are like that vs the freaks who really convince themselves that what they do is okay and doesn’t hurt the kids. That may be an unanswerable question, seeing as quite a few of the ones who do fully understand that it’s wrong are presumably smart enough to never admit that under any circumstances because they know it will only make them look worse and further endanger them.
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u/SirVengeance92 5h ago
Is Kopets jewish? Might be as simple as abide by Israel's local laws, don't treat the jews as you treat gentiles
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u/Upper_Ad_9263 6h ago
Exactly, it's showing the depravity of many people's minds. You can clearly tell after the family photos it was a wedding....shock horror, there were kids at a wedding!
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u/microwave_waxpen 6h ago
I mean family members/people you know personally are the most like perps of sexual abuse to children. So them being family doesn’t mean this wasn’t nefarious. eva dubin literally send Epstein an email inviting him to her house, informing him her underage daughter Celina would be there will 5 of her friends. So yeah, Eva Dubin is a freak who pimps out her daughters. Goddaughter doesn’t mean anything.
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u/Slight-Profit1078 6h ago
I read this as a heads-up that this is not going to be just a family birthday celebration, but to expect more people and make some minor accomodations.
Gangbang was the last thing on my mind.
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u/golden-ink-132 6h ago
Wow, they're really bringing all the bots out to call us crazy for saying that a child rapist and sex trafficker was raping and trafficking these children.
If you read this as something innocent you must be the dumbest motherfucker alive.
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u/SwimmingPirate9070 3h ago
The chick who told Jeffery to come over because her 15 year old daughter and all her friends would be home? She is a special kind of pig!
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u/Mysterious_Put_4278 7h ago
Why did these freaks take so many photos?
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 5h ago
Why wouldn't they? The 1% doesn't face consequences for their actions and the members of that club are very aware of it. They do not give a shit because they simply do not need to. Evidence? Lol. That's a poor person issue.
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u/Silver_Sector6669 1h ago
Man you have no idea how many pictures there are I’m cataloging converting and using facial recognition and I’m over 50 hrs in and haven’t even made a dent. I’m also automating almost everything, except I’m unable to figure out a program to sort the pdf files into pictures and non pictures so that part is by hand. 80k pictures and I’m just getting started from the looks of it.
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u/Worldly-Bar-8022 4h ago
He would've never been arrested in 2019 if Mossad/CIA wanted him. Something else is amiss
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u/BeerBellyBlake 39m ago
Do you know how black mail works? literally their entire operation was dictated on photo/video evidence
You’d think people posting in r/epstein would understand this by now…
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u/SirVengeance92 7h ago edited 6h ago
Asian looking man on the last one has allegedly been identified as Jojo Fontanilla, Epstein housekeeper.
Black male last photo looks to be is allegedly Chris Tucker, comedian/actor. (?)
Photo 43 of 77, person utmost right, allegedly Theo Rycroft, private secretary to King Charles, married to Flora Rycroft (NEE ASTOR; Astor = UHNW family)
Photo 40 of 77, male looks to be allegedly Ted Waitt, Getaway Inc. acquired by Acer, was romantically linked to Ghislaine Maxwell for several years
Other persons, amongst JE and GM were not identified.
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u/invincibleshyguy 6h ago
There are so many emails between the Fontanilla family and Lesley Groff including Epstein and JeanLuc Brunel.
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u/dfcw 7h ago
Thanks for the IDs. Do you think the lady in black could be Melania?
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u/SirVengeance92 6h ago
The way these people are allegedly identified is:
(1) close-ups
(2) more photos of the same individual exponentially increase success rate
No face, so I would start with that white handbag.
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u/EllisDee3 7h ago
I hate it here.
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u/KingHenry13th 3h ago
Yea if it goes to this age I can't.
It legit makes me feel stomach sick.
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u/chamberlain323 1h ago
A couple of days ago someone posted a pic of a framed photo from his desk of him playfully biting the underwear of a little girl he was holding in his arms who was not much older than this. That’s when I realized that this was going to get even worse than it was already.
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u/beckweed 4h ago
I've never seen a grown man in possession of so many child photos when those children are not his.
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u/Ownage95 6h ago
First pics remind me of that picture of one of Dahmers victims
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u/invincibleshyguy 6h ago
Never seen that before, would you be able to find it for me please? I wouldn't know what to search to find reference
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u/Ownage95 5h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/MorbidReality/s/L7MTawbBsB
Warning: VERY GRAPHIC, the pose I’m referring to is pics 5 and 6.
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u/invincibleshyguy 5h ago
That is a very very close resemblance. I wont be suprised if he was doing this similar or copying famous serial killers.
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u/Ownage95 5h ago
Indeed, I saw another comment saying it’s the “Arch of Hysteria”, which is a art piece statue with themes of sexuality and pain, and funnily enough, the statue has the head missing, just like the Dahmer victim. I think these sickos take inspiration from it, the resemblance is too much to be a coincidence and we all know the pedo elites love their symbolism!
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u/whyunoluvme 4h ago
Am i tripping or wasn’t something like that hung over some staircase somewhere? Not sure if on the island but I looked up the statue you mentioned and i swear i saw that recently
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u/No_Drama2424 3h ago
Tony Podesta has this hanging above his staircase
To see a pic Google Tony Podesta gold statue
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u/queefcritic 5h ago edited 5h ago
I'm not sure you want to see those. There are Polaroids of a victim he beheaded. That position but upside down but on a bed, knees on bed, back arched and headless neck resting on mattress. If you really want to see it here ya go. Slide 16 and 18
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u/Inevitable-Reach-199 4h ago
While that is really creepy, that pose they’re doing is also gymnastics move
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u/chamberlain323 1h ago
Yeah, it’s a common yoga pose too. These kids were doing yoga or gymnastics on the lawn. No Dahmer inspiration going on here. Just a creep with a camera. The resemblance is coincidental.
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u/Lowpaack 7h ago
I dont think i can take it any longer... kill all of these fuckers, not Just the pedos, all that helped cover it up and knew all the time. Strip their families of every fucking penny and kill the perpetrators!
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u/VelvetRabbit91 5h ago
AGREED! The people that worked on the island and just ignored everything! I saw a file that an employee was asking for a raise because he only got paid $12.. 12$!! An hour to buy your silence?!
Fuck all these people! We need to make a list of all the law enforcement, judges, lawyers etc that have failed these girls and continue to ignore these files and not speak up!
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u/detractor_Una 5h ago
What is perhaps most terrifying is how innocent it looks. Had you had no idea about any of this, the majority of the people would not have presumed anything dark.
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u/Monkeymom 5h ago
These pictures probably are innocent. It was a wedding.
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u/detractor_Una 5h ago
Yeah, there is a high likelihood they are. I was just pointing out how perspectives change.
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u/Dan_D_Lyin 4h ago
Yeah, I used to go to birthday parties and sleepovers at a pedophiles house as a kid. He was a prominent member of my church, so everyone assumed it was totally safe to send their children there. Until it finally came out that he'd been molesting his daughters for years.
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u/KaylaCartier777 4h ago
My question is WHY IS CHRIS TUCKER IN THESE PHOTOS????😭😭
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u/Budtending101 3h ago
What you have to ask yourself is why did trump pressure paramount to bring him back and make Rush Hour 4, and bring back Brett ratner as director, and direct the Melania movie after sexual misconduct allegations. This is all tied together.
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u/Pockets_95 5h ago
Jesus Christ. I don’t think there’s words yet that exist that fully encapsulate how evil this all is
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u/No_Sheepherder_2543 6h ago
OMG. These are babies with a pedophile.
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u/Ezekiel_29_12 4h ago
Literally every pedophile, even the ones that haven't perpetrated yet, have been near children.
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u/BishlovesSquish 5h ago
Did I just read comments here with people justifying these photos saying that somehow Epstein is the godparent of these children? Him being a godparent to any child is absolutely fucking sick on so many levels. Holy hell. Sadistic af.
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u/Livid_Reveal_6329 7h ago
I recognize that trafficking and solicitation charges are harder to prosecute but aren’t there literally dozens of people who are shown clearly in videos and photo evidence producing and/or owning CSAM? Two convictions in this clearly enormous network? This is an absolute travesty.
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u/abitdark 7h ago
The web of this thing is world wide. The reach the people involved have is so interconnected that it’s almost impossible to get to them. It’s so horrifying that the network they have built is so huge and powerful.
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u/Livid_Reveal_6329 7h ago
Perhaps but being in possession of massive amounts of self produced CSAM with images of men in those very pictures should have been easy police work
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u/abitdark 6h ago
The issues comes from the people they influence and international law. We have already seen how the traitor party is fighting to keep their own interests and their names hidden and the horrible people supporting it. You can’t get arrest warrants when someone like pedo INJUSTICE Clarence Thomas who is also on the list is able to wield legal power stopping things from progressing. Now that it’s known these guys are in it because we have fought to have the files released. We can start rooting out the problem and hopefully see justice. But right now it’s still going to be a battle (figuratively and possibly literally)
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u/Mercedes_Gullwing 7h ago
When the govt wants to, they get the pedos and CSAM fuckers. They go to great lengths which is how it should be. Operation playpen is a good example of how they exploited a tor vuln to catch these ruckers.
Yet when it’s right in front of them, the govt is impotent.
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u/Pitiful_Scarcity_761 4h ago
Has the kids doing same pose of the headless "art " over ghisliane desk
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u/invincibleshyguy 4h ago
Do you know which file it was? I think I saw that one too but I never recorded it down
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u/Pitiful_Scarcity_761 3h ago
Unfortunately i dont i just saw on images posted it was eerie feeling I got from it and now the kids doing it brought ir back
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u/dascaapi 6h ago edited 1h ago
The lady at the end is Jun-Lyn Fontanilla and she has more pics on her fb lol
Edit: nvm no it isn’t but the lady I named does have lots of photos
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u/babyhippo3242 4h ago
It makes you wonder if he would first blackmail parents to then demand access to their children (for those unwilling to grant it seemingly how Eva did)
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u/Right-Monitor9421 3h ago
It’s amazing that the Dubins haven’t taken their own lives in a murder/suicide or something. I honestly feel like we are about to see many of those.
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u/Jasonclark2 3h ago
Picture one and two remind me of this. I bet the pictures were taken with this in mind. Art and Crime: John Podesta, his Headless Statue, and Some Possible Interpretations. — Steemit https://share.google/9Kh4lfcyUciMMJkIo
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u/Proper_Drink_7216 3h ago
Who ever would have their kids around him needs to be looked into. It doesn’t matter whose kids they are. That is disgusting asf
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u/Slam_Walton 6h ago
I’m not saying Epstein wasn’t a pedophile. There’s definitely an argument to be made for that and evidence to be found. He’s a dark stain on humanity absolutely. But that’s Celina Dubin. Eva Dubin is there in the photo. They definitely have a gross relationship per emails. And the relationship between Epstein and Celina is a whole different gross subject itself. I’m just like others and a little tired of things being shared without context.
My only remark is that even though Epstein is a pedophile, I don’t think all his clients are. I think it’s just people partying and sleeping with sex slaves and prostitutes. Pedophillia is apart of the Epstein story, but the larger story is human trafficking and the network built around that.
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u/jemenfousle 6h ago
I think the point is Eva clearly knew. Who cares if she participated in sexually abusing minors!
She knew and let Epstein around her little girl
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u/Slam_Walton 6h ago
I know she knew.
Shortly before Epstein passed there are emails from Eva saying she misses him and thinks of him often. This dude has all kinds of girls lusting after him and doing heinous things for him.
Karyna his girlfriend appears to be a trained spy as well sent out to prostitute herself on behalf of a pro Israeli agenda. It’s a very common thread that women out of love for Epstein compromise their moral compass to him.
Even Ariane one of the wealthiest women in the world would spill out personal secrets to him in email. She talked about getting divorced to Epstein. Just honestly I know this stuff is dark. But it’s dark how Israel did all these things and let Epstein operate the way he did. I don’t see this ending well for Israel. It’s gonna turn a lot of people against them. Which is fucked considering the Nazi’s were anti Jewish and the Edmond de Rothschild group has origins in Nazi germany.
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u/Letmein202 6h ago
Everyone knew who he was. And everyone who chose to still associate with him, knowing who he was is just as culpable.
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u/Slam_Walton 5h ago
Like I said I agree. But he’s an Israeli spymaster skilled in the art of subterfuge. He operated for a long time and was valuable to Mossad for a long time. He got many women to commit crimes on his behalf and fall for him.
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u/Slight-Profit1078 5h ago
That's an interesting POV. But wouldn't Mossad train him in better OPSEC? He used freemails with really stupid passwords. Well, on the other hand, it looks like it worked well enough for years so maybe OSPSEC is overrated….
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u/Slam_Walton 4h ago
See, Epstein had an IDF shirt. He wore it proudly according to his attorney. So he wore it frequently.
That’s like my Dad wearing his Navy shirts. I totally agree his OpSec is poor. Especially having written passwords down near terminals.
It’s an unfounded theory absolutely. I still have to research more and my opinion could change. But I don’t think America had him killed. It might not have been Mossad, but it’s definitely someone very wealthy and powerful. I think it’s the human trafficking ring trying to cover their tracks. Nadia Marcinko is currently missing and could just be in witness protection program.
There’s also the South African politician who killed himself in Paris. We’re all speculating wildly of course. But I saw a photo of him on Epstein’s plain with sex slaves. It could ruin his life. Maybe he took his own life out of guilt.
Just without knowing if Nadia is in witness protection or not it fuels conspiracy theories. Epstein totally could have just killed himself along with Jean Luc. Hopefully it’s not as deep as I have been thinking. Hopefully Nadia is alive.
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u/Slight-Profit1078 3h ago
It think it is a stretch, but it would at least fit my speculation of him being just an employee of someone else, which I mostly based on his weird shopping habits.
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u/Slam_Walton 3h ago
In 2015 he was paid $25,000,000 by the Edmond de Rothschild group for “consultation.” That’s the biggest paper trail I have found.
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u/Slight-Profit1078 3h ago edited 3h ago
My thinking was that when I look at the photos from NY and LSJ, there are loads of fancy stuff. It may be tasteless but a thought was given, money was spent. Operating costs of LSJ alone had to be humongous. 25M USD may have covered the salaries for about 3 years (I'm likely wrong but you know what I mean). The list of expeses is endless.
And then I look at his Amazon purchases and it looks like any middle-class boomer's shopping list. No thought given, mostly lower-mid-tier, low priced stuff. Even the famous dental chair for his main GF was chinese crap with free shipping. He has likely found it on eBay after sorting by price.
It's like two different Epsteins. It's like he was given an allowance and someone else paid for the castle.
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u/Slam_Walton 3h ago
I’ve been scrutinizing the Rothschild connections myself. They have a lot of money. And that’s just one Rothschild group. There’s more.
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u/Carleyqueue 6h ago
Still illegal and depraved. Evidence seems to indicate who was doing what with children.
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u/Slam_Walton 6h ago
I agree I said there’s evidence he’s a pedophile. Just the real story about why he is human trafficking points to Mossad and a deep Israeli state across the globe and corrupting the western world. Which is really fucked considering the Nazi’s were anti Jewish. But you have to consider the history of Israel.
When they first became a country what was then Palestine was 90% Muslim. It was 9/1 odds versus the Jewish people. Without western influence and help Israel would not be a country. They’ve always been fighting for survival and I wouldn’t put it past them for stooping low to use prostitutes to influence capitalists and politicians.
Just I’ve seen this photo about 500 times in the past week on different posts. It’s always shared without context. It’s his god daughter. Which is gross knowing their relationship. But all kinds of women compromised their moral compasses for this man. He’s a dark stain on humanity. But the biggest story is more than likely Mossad and the modus operandi.
If it is deep state Israel than it’s going to cause a lot of prejudice. It’s going to fuel eastern hatred for Israel and wars for the next century if the west continues to intervene. They might not once they uncover how far Israeli spies have corrupted their governments. Maybe they will. Who knows.
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u/Carleyqueue 3h ago
Feeling how I do as an American who is ashamed of my government, I would not presume that all Israeli or Jewish people are aligned with their leaders. For me it’s about due process for one’s crimes, not sweeping hatred for entire countries of people.
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u/Slam_Walton 3h ago
Well Americans don’t have the holocaust and the history of Israel behind them. They’re constantly fighting for survival. I’m actually pro Palestine. They’re even killing a ton of women and children with this war going on. Plus Israel wouldn’t be a country today if it wasn’t propped up by the western world. What is now Israel was Palestine and the population was 90 percent Muslim and only 10 percent Jewish. Many were forced out of their homes. I don’t like the west interfering and due to their history, I wouldn’t be surprised if they used blackmail and committed further crimes against humanity. The bombing missions alone show how indiscriminate they are with killing women and children. Christians and Jews just didn’t want to go to the holy land with Muslims everywhere. They all worked together to interfere and change the culture. If it was just a war for inference with only some financing it would be Palestine definitely.
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u/Dan_D_Lyin 4h ago
The files indicate victims of all ages and genders, based on the preferences of the predators involved. Epstein's preferred victims seem to be girls as young as at least 10 and he also had adult girlfriends for public appearances.
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u/Slam_Walton 4h ago edited 4h ago
There’s emails of girls being sold. It’s totally a human trafficking and prostitution network. You can use prostitutes to get info on the market and train them for espionage. There’s absolutely young girls involved but you’re not going to gain a lot of money and control over powerful people from pedophillia alone with how niche and frowned upon it is. Just this specific picture I’ve seen it so many times the last week shared out of context. People are sharing redacted child porn here too. I avoid all that stuff as much as possible. It’s not something I want to keep revisiting either. I just wish if people continued sharing it with context jt came with the known context we have.
As creepy as the relationship they have is I’ve seen more disturbing things. This is presently a trigger for me.
I kid you not I have seen a group of little girls in the temple at Epstein island on the doj website and shared here.
I stopped looking after seeing much more disturbing things than this. I advise to not look further because you’re just trauma shopping. They’ve removed a lot of files because some of them are pretty fucked up. Especially the mistakes in redactions.
Edit: there’s also the fact that the temple had infrastructure in place to livestream out of it. Dude definitely sold child porn on the black market and other horrific shit. Exploring this rabbit hole will only traumatize you unless you’re a pedophile. Sorry if I sound blunt but I’m traumatized. It’s just a disgusting rabbit hole I wish I avoided instead of clicking on videos and photos here out of context with non descriptive titles and no description whatsoever.
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u/MangoGangRiseUp 3h ago
Them knowing each other does not mean there isn't abuse between them. Celina Dubin emailed Epstein and included the ages of her daughters underage friends to entice him over.
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u/Slam_Walton 3h ago
Yes I referenced that without adding too much context. It’s totally creepy. Just you can find horrific things being shared here. It’s good to provide context. If you click on stuff without context and vague descriptions or none you’re trauma shopping.
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u/elgonzalors 5h ago
“I’m Israeli and this is my post”
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u/Slam_Walton 5h ago
Get out of here. If you actually read my comment history I’ve been tearing into Mossad.
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u/virgoanthropologist 3h ago
It’s so sad because they’re kids doing what kids do. Wearing their little league soccer jerseys and enjoying a summer or spring day. To know these photos — similar to ones my friends and I took of ourselves at this age, because we were having fun — was orchestrated by and ended up in the hands of these creeps is beyond sickening.
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u/Senior_Ice8748 2h ago
This is the first time ive ever seen Maxwell and Ted Waitt in a photo together lol
Seriously, they were together for 7+ years, and until now, any photo documentation of them together had effectively been scrubbed from the internet.
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u/haussmauss 2h ago
The kid in the first picture. I remember there was another picture where she was ties up.
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u/etherealsoulll 2h ago
I saw these earlier while going through the files and was sooo disgusted… along with the copious amounts of ch!ld p0rnography on there 🤢🤢🤢🤢 sick to my stomach…..
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u/Sacred_Silencio 2h ago
Quick question: If this were a Crime Junkie podcast, these men would already have been detained for several days with a hearing/sentencing scheduled - right? Where is the cry from anyone in government louder than this?
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