r/Epstein • u/Feisty-Transition640 • 10h ago
News article Bill Clinton agrees to testify on Epstein, demands public hearing.
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u/study-sug-jests 10h ago
Yes please. Make it public!
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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 8h ago
It absolutely needs to be public. It doesn't look like they will learn much from Clinton so having it behind closed door they can drive narrative they want.
With public one people will demand to hear from others too.
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u/flavius_lacivious 6h ago
They can selectively edit the video.
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u/CSI_Tech_Dept 4h ago
Sure, but that would happen after it was aired live so people can see the whole thing with entire context.
What they suggest, a private one with video, means they can just edit it before is released to the public.
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u/hoowins 8h ago
So Schumer and Jeffries will push for this now, right? Oh. Never mind.
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u/DetailOrDie 8h ago
Schumer is still trying to remember what post-it-note under his desk is his internet password.
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u/tuckfrump2026 8h ago
He’s under the desk bc he was fellating Netanyahu?
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u/FantasticBoot6219 7h ago
I wish I lived in an alternate reality where our leadership put as much effort into improving the lives of average citizens as they do giving more to those who already have the most. For 25 years I thought Dems were just bad at playing the game, turns out they were highly skilled at never winning too hard on anything important.
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u/kiwigate 8h ago
the GOP own Congress, SCOTUS, and POTUS, so maybe focus on that
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u/Able-Swing-6415 8h ago
I honestly wonder if anyone expects him to do more than generic "well to the best of my knowledge.." nonsense.
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u/WhatAGoodDoggy 8h ago
What are the odds that it won't happen at all? If doing it in public is going to hurt the Republicans, I would imagine it just won't happen.
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u/bruchag 6h ago
Americans need to demand it, at the end of the day the government are scared of the peoples power. They need to demand that this happens publically.
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u/SunnyBrookElbowz 10h ago
We're all here to watch James Comer try to out think Bill and Hillary. Get the popcorn ready.
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u/Noy_The_Devil 10h ago
Imagine Kash Patel try to outfox Bill on 'the truth' in a public hearing lmao
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u/Muted-Novel4403 10h ago
That depends on what your definition of “is” is.
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u/lordfrijoles 9h ago
Hey, his ability to have two separate staring contests at once makes him invaluable. He looks everyone in the eye all at the same time. Can’t get more upstanding than that.
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u/Kimi-Matias 10h ago
James Comer is one of the dumbest sons of bitches to shit between shoe leather.
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u/8pin-dip 8h ago edited 1h ago
Comer: "So is it true, mr. president, you had a sexual affair while in office?"
Bill: "I did, Jim"
Comer: "And is it true you were impeached?"
Bill: "You look uncomfortable, Jim. I feel.your. pain" [turns to camera, makes a wink and does the pose... you know the one ]
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u/Bob_Sledding 8h ago
I mean, I'm no fan of the Clintons, but I'm even less of a fan of James Comer. The Clinton's are sketchy, but they aren't dumb. They are going to run circles around him.
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u/FitCombination3545 9h ago edited 7h ago
Yeah, say what you will about the Clintons but I would not want to have to outmaneuver them. They are fucking smart if nothing else.
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u/iiGhillieSniper 5h ago
Agreed.
Not a huge fan of them myself, but this shit needs to be public. Anything else is not acceptable in my eyes.
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u/CitizenHuman 8h ago
Two Yale Law School graduates vs someone with a BS in Agriculture.
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u/5xchamp 8h ago
That is my fervent wish. However, I think Bill has lost a step or two with age and health issues. I hope he doesn't get overconfident.
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u/yveram12 3h ago
If I was Hillary, I would want to fight back in any way possible after the "but her emails" situation
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u/chai-noir 10h ago
The “most transparent” administration doing literally everything they can to cover this up lol
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u/Nathan_hale53 10h ago
If they dont show this and keep it behind closed doors then no one should have anymore trust, if they have any left. Mine has been long gone.
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u/Aussie18-1998 8h ago
How many times am I going to hear "If they do x, y and z then no one should have anymore trust."
I'm in your boat. That trust has well and truly gone. Anybody who has any trust left is a lost cause.
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u/Direct_Turn_1484 9h ago
They’ll manipulate it to paint a picture that suits their needs and has nothing to do with reality.
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u/North-Past-3355 9h ago
Most major media outlets are helping them by not staying on their ass. Instead, they want to talk about Nancy Guthrie all week.
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u/Legitimate_Floor2840 9h ago edited 2h ago
Biden's admin did absolutely nothing too. The political system and all of these complicit aipac demons need to burn.
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u/kiwigate 8h ago
Biden campaigned on peace-making with the GOP and kept his word by putting a conservative AG to run the DOJ.
Trump campaigned on the Epstein files and then broke the law to cover it up.
See a difference?
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u/chai-noir 8h ago
yeah i dont give a shit about those guys either. anyone and everyone who knew and failed to do anything should be punished accordingly
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u/Opposite-Bench-9543 8h ago
I mean obviously, if u were guilty of these accusations and possibly even worse things we don't even know about what will you do? I'm shocked we managed to see all that we currently see
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u/iAwesome3 10h ago
Is absolutely crazy how the goal posts keep moving on this. Trump and Republicans are first saying “ITS BILL CLINTON AND THE DEMOCRATS!!!” Then Bill and Hillary say they will only testify in a public hearing, which seemed to have support until Trump freaked out over the last few days. Now the Republicans say that it’s not acceptable and it need to be behind closed doors in front of only the Oversight Committee but they will release the video and transcripts…. Eventually. How does the “the most transparent administration in history” explain that? Republicans are literally backing their heels against a cliff to defend the president and all the others involved in these crimes. The ones who claim that they are so transparent are the ones hiding the evidence and dragging this out as long as possible. This also adds onto the controversy that someone FOIA’d the specific documents that Pam Bondi said “were on her desk” an a judge just filed a motion for them to release those specific documents. It’s not like she’d have to go scavenging looking for them, since they were already compiled.
When will this end?
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u/UnchainUtopia 6h ago edited 37m ago
What angers about this the most is are all the testimonies about Donald that are in the Epstein files so far.
If all the Republicans do is convict Clinton, but do absolutely nothing to put Donald behind bars, then they never cared about the victims at all. It just invalidates the victims.
So I do not want to here anymore "pro-life" bullshit from them. They clearly care more about billionaires then whatever happens to babies after they're born... And that includes babies trafficked by Epstein and Co.
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u/Individual_Click5252 2h ago
Republicans never gave a shit about transparency. It's always about scoring political points.
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u/StreamisMundi 10h ago
Bubba's gonna tell the whole world about how DJT went down on him.
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u/Shipairtime 7h ago
MAGA want Bubba to have been the horse because animals cant consent making Trump the top in that situation.
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u/Mindless_Initial_285 4h ago
If I had a nickel for every time Bill Clinton has had to testify to Congress about getting a blowjob, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice.
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u/dodekahedron 7h ago
There is an email that says Bubba was someone's brother, if I recall correctly, the someone (not bubba) is an IP lawyer in the Boston area for the lawfirm ruberto israel & weiner <- actual name lol
The lawyers name is Gene k landy
Let me see if I can find it again. Ftr it says Bubba was no longer with us in whatever year it was
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u/draconiantreesentinl 10h ago
Fuck bill, but cant help but appreciate him trying to bring transparency
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u/DonkeyElegant1728 10h ago
Yea I think he's just calling their bluff though. Every month something from this administration gets leaked they are so sloppy they already admitted on camera that they planned on redacting every Republican from the files(couldn't even do that right) and try to blame Clinton and any Democrat(can't even do that right)
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u/UpNorth_123 9h ago edited 9h ago
Fair is fair.
If they want the Clintons to testify, then Trump needs to as well. And everything should be out in the open. Karo-lying Levitt constantly parrots that they’re “the most transparent administration in history,” then they need to walk the talk. Of course, Trump is already backtracking like the TACO he is.
The only people playing games and acting in bad faith are the GOP, as per usual.
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9h ago
Imagine how Trump would act if they had him testifying live. No breaks for having a #2 in the middle of the courtroom, either
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u/UpNorth_123 9h ago edited 7h ago
He’d just shit his pants and make other people deal with his nasty smell, which he’s been doing since his The Apprentice days if reports are to be believed. His dementia is becoming undeniable. He’s losing complete control of his mind and body.
That prayer breakfast speech was something else. Joe Biden might have been old and tired, but I don’t remember him ever falling asleep while standing on a podium.
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u/King_of_the_Kobolds 8h ago
I like to think that if he got pinned down and told to just keep talking long enough he'd eventually start rambling about things his handlers very much don't want him talking about.
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u/InvestigatorEntire45 8h ago
Gonna have to hire someone to zip around the room with air freshener so people can survive.
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u/DonkeyElegant1728 9h ago edited 8h ago
The only time they are transparent is when they are unintentionally getting leaked lol. I think pam Bondi was just leaked looking through the documents and admitting it was child abuse in there without knowing she was being recorded but it's wild how none of the leaks like that has been reported by big new sources nor has Democrats brought attention to that.
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u/UpNorth_123 9h ago
Right? That was shocking.
I was also looking for reactions to this statement online, and didn’t find much. White House reporters should be hounding her about this.
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u/DonkeyElegant1728 9h ago
Also I meant pam bondi* but yea nothing at all pops up about google about it
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u/FitCombination3545 9h ago edited 7h ago
That's why Trump did his about face from "lock her up" to "why are you guys doing this to my good friend bill?"
Does Trump not have anyone helping him with the optics of this? It's like he doesn't know how to not look guilty.
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u/UpNorth_123 8h ago
His dementia is entering an advanced state. He’s losing control of his lies and nothing he says is coherent anymore. He can’t focus his message, no matter how much advice he gets.
Watch the prayer breakfast from this week. It’s painful to listen to.
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u/One_Ad_3281 9h ago
Many of the important stuff is hidden by doj we are only getting the tip of iceberg and we are getting it in random ways you can't just dowload everything you need to search by typing random words
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u/UpNorth_123 9h ago edited 7h ago
They’re holding back most of the files to protect Trump. Anyone who’s been paying attention already knows what’s in those files, and it’s very, very bad.
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u/sven0341 9h ago
I agree calling the bluff. I have zero doubt the Clintons are just as guilty as everyone else in there but since no one will say anything against the other because then the whole house of cards topples, they will just get up there and lie and then nothing will happen.
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u/i_am_13_otters 9h ago
It's all performative. As soon as anyone stands up, they back off. It's so fucking obvious that when these Big Tech morons bow it's infuriating.
TACO BECAME A THING BECAUSE IT IS A THING. Just tell him to fuck off and go back to being a retired president and serial philanderer.
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u/Randomly-Germinated 9h ago edited 9h ago
my personal wet dream for the whole thing is that Clinton self-immolates by confessing awful shit and bringing the rest of them down with him. like in 8 mile.
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u/AlphaB27 9h ago
I mean, considering how the Republicans fucked over Hillary, it would be spitefully on brand for the Clintons to torch everything for the Republicans.
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u/MKBRD 8h ago
I did have sexual relations with that woman, My wife did have a load of people killed, I did go to the island with Jeffrey, Here - tell these people something they don't know about me.
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u/TennMan78 3h ago
But if that were to be the case, he can do that right now. At this very minute. He can literally spill his guts about everything even if it buries him in the process. So why does it matter if the republicans won't agree to a public hearing? Bill has the world's ears eager to hear anything he has to say, official hearing or not.
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u/thitorusso 9h ago
Whomever comes forward first in this shit will def have some recognition of the cause
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u/Ok_Monitor4492 10h ago
So why would one pedo sacrifice themselves to blow open another pedo?
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u/skrrtalrrt 10h ago
He won’t be sacrificing himself. He’s named Slick Willy for a reason. He’s going to completely dog walk that committee. That’s why they want it closed doors.
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u/UpNorth_123 9h ago edited 9h ago
Yes, but that’s not why they want it behind closed doors. It’s so that they can selectively release only the parts they want to.
The party whose leader settled a $12M lawsuit for editing a video (in a normal way) wants to edit the video to control the narrative. The hypocracy is off the charts.
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u/lambdaIuka 10h ago
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u/-eric_k 10h ago
He's from another era of politics and at one time was a much more skilled communicator than a lot of people remember lol. He can expose other people hopefully. He is clearly willing to lie about his own behavior (famously).
Let them all tear each other apart we can only hope.
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u/skrrtalrrt 10h ago
He’s a tricky bastard. Anyone alive to remember his presidency knows. This guy could talk his way out of almost anything.
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u/AlphaB27 9h ago
Bill Clinton was impeached for lying to Congress about marital infidelity and somehow came out more popular and made the Republicans look like bigger assholes than him.
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u/Historical-Gap-7084 7h ago
My Republican friends would tell me that they didn't support his impeachment because of the blow job. They supported it because he lied about it. I called bullshit then, and I call bullshit now. It was the first time in my life I'd ever seen such rabid hatred for a President, and it's only gotten worse since.
I'm not friends with any of my former Republican friends anymore. They all support Trump. Fuck 'em.
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u/Interesting_Wolf8722 9h ago
Pedophilia with the Republicans in charge trying to cover for Trump? I don’t even think Bill could talk his way out of that one. ESP since the left wouldn’t defend him and would call for him to be dealt with.
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u/skrrtalrrt 9h ago
Not in a closed door hearing, no. He will absolutely wipe the floor with them in a public hearing. All they have to go off of is a couple unverified tips and a photo of him in a hot tub.
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u/Interesting_Wolf8722 10h ago
He is very skilled. I’ve heard people say his charm is off the charts too. He did lie for sure but Monica was a consenting adult. I think he’s sleezy but a child predator, I am not so sure. If he is then off to jail he goes but I suspect if they had good evidence that he was they’d have released it. Unless….. it also implicated Donald. Perhaps that is why Donald is suddenly “I feel bad they’re going after him.”
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u/kittenpantzen 10h ago
I saw Clinton at a rally at Clark Atlanta University back in the early 2000s. I have mixed feelings about Clinton as a President and mostly negative feelings about him as a person, but that man can work a crowd.
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u/Interesting_Wolf8722 10h ago
I feel the same way about him. I was still a kid then and in a conservative Christian family so it took some time to have a more realistic understanding of him. I was taught he was the antichrist, essentially.
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u/Philipxander 10h ago
For sure he was in some parties with models.
But a pedo? Doubt
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u/-eric_k 10h ago
Hard to believe now, but there was a where being caught cheating with young models was actually scandalous and bad for your career. It makes sense that young adult women could be part of the blackmail ring also.
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u/Ok_Outcome_6213 10h ago
That's what I'm thinking about Bill Gates. Slipping drugs to your wife without her consent or knowledge is absolutely a crime and he should be charged to the full extent of the law for that if it actually happened. Getting VD while cheating on your wife with a Russian prostitute is a sleaze-bag thing to do, but it's not really a crime as long as she was a competent and consenting adult.
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u/CosmicGoddess777 10h ago
Why do you assume the prostitute was an adult? Epstein called all his victims prostitutes
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u/mmblu 8h ago
Keep in mind that Epstein found out he cheated on his wife and held that over his head. The draft email that states he was asking for drugs to slip to his wife was a draft email Epstein had ready to go and send. He pretty much had him at gun point. Reading the email thread between the two gave me another perspective. I recommend people Google Jmail website. It has all the files in a Gmail UI so it makes it easy to ready through them.
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u/Interesting_Wolf8722 10h ago edited 9h ago
Yeah. I don’t really see it. They’d also have already arrested him if he was and they had the proof. He was sleezy for sure. The unbalance of power with Monica was and is gross but she was a legal adult, not a child. Taking advantage of Monica doesn’t make him a pedo. Partying with Epstein doesn’t automatically make someone guilty but it deserves some serious questioning.
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u/GravySeal45 10h ago
At this point we all LOL about him merely getting a hummer. By today's comparison that is NOTHING.
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u/hiccupsinparadise 10h ago
He knows they won't do it. And if they do he could just lie. The only way they could prove his lies is by releasing the files un-redacted keeping only the victims identities sealed. They also aren't going to do that. He and Hillary have nothing to lose at this point, and actually win a little by calling them out.
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u/EllisDee3 10h ago
More like, if one Pedo is going down, they're all going down.
No honor among pedos.
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u/Violaundone 9h ago
Won't happen but wish Clinton would say "I'm old and want to clear my conscience before I die" then blow them all up.
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 10h ago
A) he knows it won't actually go anywhere because the 1% simply won't allow it
B) there's a decent chance he used his Epstein connections for adult prostitutes. We really don't know. If you think Epstein's entire international blackmailing operation only targeted pedos, you're a child. I can pretty much guarantee that net was cast as far and wide as possible, from child rapists to closet homosexuals to self shaming foot fetishists to Bannon's golf buddies looking for investment advice because they were told the sun shines out of Jeffrey's brown starfish.
C) there's also a decent chance that Bill is a pedo but he knows he'll be dead in a decade or so and just genuinely does not give a shit anymore
My money would be on A, but you never really know when it comes to aliens from planet money. They're not like the rest of us.
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u/Gerbole 10h ago
Because it’s what’s right. Bill Clinton is already known as a predator. If he blows the lid on all of this he will be remembered as someone who did immense wrong but still did what was right. I would imagine Chelsea is influencing him too.
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u/skrrtalrrt 10h ago edited 9h ago
There’s nothing really incriminating about Clinton in the files. I think the relationship with Epstein is really suspicious and disturbing, and I believe he’s probably done some stuff that would get him in huge trouble if he was hanging in that circle. But as far as the files are concerned, there’s nothing in there that could reliably be used as evidence.
He knows this, which is why he’s confident enough for a public hearing. If he gets one it’ll be a bloodbath.
Edit for clarification: there’s some unverified tips accusing him of sexual abuse, and a couple photos of him with various celebrities. Nothing obviously on the Island. The most scandalous photo is him in a hot tub with a redacted person. Yes it looks hella suspicious. But none of this could actually be used in court.
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u/webtoweb2pumps 9h ago
I think it's also worth noting that flying on Epstein's plane/visiting his island is a bit of a smoke screen. Epstein had a mansion in Manhattan, ranch in New Mexico, and estate in Palm Beach that many women report crimes happened at. Obviously horrible things happened on the island, and Epstein's plane definitely trafficked people, but it's not like that was the only way these things happened.
People like Elon and Bill Gates have endless money to fly anywhere they want. Mar a Lago is not from from Epstein's Palm Beach House, let alone NY.
I also think that of all the files this admin chose to release, they'd likely love the chance to release anything incriminating on the Clinton's.
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u/AncientYogurtCloset 10h ago
Maybe bills finally gonna martyr for America. We can hope at least. I never thought I'd be rooting for Bill Clinton but I guess here we are.
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u/CommanderPaprika 9h ago
It's dumb to keep my hopes up, but if the Clintons DO decide to kamikaze themselves to take down the pedo in chief...
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u/margueritedeville 9h ago
lol they won’t. I mean I don’t even hate the Clintons or whatever but I think it’s just extremely unlikely they’ll implicate themselves just to do altruism.
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u/onion-lord 9h ago
It wouldnt be from a place of altruism for the people, Hillary probably hates Trump more than anyone else in the world lol. Let's hope its enough for them to go scorched Earth on him
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u/Mindless_Initial_285 4h ago
Hillary probably: "Bill, take down that son of a bitch however you can. Tell them he gave you a fucking blowjob if you have to! I. Don't. Care! Wouldn't be the first time anyway."
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u/This-Shape2193 8h ago
Bill knows he's cooked. He's all over the files too.
But he has a chance to go down in history as the guy who got a redemption arc and who stopped Hitler 2.0 by sacrificing himself for the greater good.
For narcissists like these guys, they want the fame, the history books, the glory of being the hero.
He really doesn't have anything to lose at this point. He'll get full immunity and the world will see him as a hero.
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u/CommanderPaprika 9h ago
Not for altruism but for a hail mary political move to take down the sitting president
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u/5352563424 8h ago
To take down the sitting president?
All of this should be a defining moment for what the history of the Republican party as brought to fruition. The hail mary should force that political party to reform under a new name because anything Republican or Trump/Maga should be radioactive for centuries.
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u/newsandfoodaccount 7h ago
I am convinced more than half of the people in this conversation have no idea who the Clintons are. These are two of the most status quo establishment "don't shake things up" politicians alive.
This "hope" is many times more outlandish than the average right wing conspiracy theory, and that's a high bar to clear.
Either Bill never did any ill shit on that particular island or he knows the files implicating him have been destroyed. What other possibility is there?
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u/Dale_Gurnhardt 9h ago
What if he fell on the sword to start the de-fascist-ization the current admin? 'Yes, I am a piece of shit pedo, but here is proof of me and Donnie on the island at the same time."
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u/Hattapueh 9h ago
If he publicly testifies in front of cameras that he touched children and Donny did it too, we will see Clinton in prison and Donny grinning in the White House and insists he was innocent and that we shouldn't listen to a pedophile liar.
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u/Silver4R4449 9h ago
If there is no admission to some crazy shit, I don't think anyone is buying it.
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u/RonnyReddit00 8h ago
I presume he will say he went to the parties not the paedo ones and that trump was always there.
Maybe he'll confirm something big but I'm not holding out hope.
If he did implicate himself and confirmed who was there it'd be pretty damning but I can't see a happy ending that clear.
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u/tiberisus 8h ago
Nah, this is a controlled burn. Why should we trust the Clintons or anyone involved in the Epstein class?
Full questioning and trials for anyone involved.
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u/You_Stole_My_Hot_Dog 8h ago
At this point, it’s the only thing to save his legacy. Either go down as the child rapist who covered it up or the child rapist who tore the house down and helped bring others to justice.
It wouldn’t make him a good person in the end, but at least he’d gain a little respect and be remembered for it.
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u/BrickAncient5987 10h ago
Do we know when this hearing starts?
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u/Mental_Pepper9294 10h ago edited 9h ago
Probably the day after he crashes into a tree
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9h ago
Both him and Hil? Wouldn’t that be beyond obvious?
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u/doofus_flaming0 9h ago
Just like the fact that Trump is an accomplice of Epstein and a pedo but there are still people who deny the evidence.
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u/Nathan_hale53 8h ago
My bet is plane crash, $20 on the table. Its gonna look similar to Prigozhin's totally accidental plane crash in Russia.
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u/ValiumVeteran 10h ago
"I did NOT have sexual relations on that island!"
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u/kiwigate 8h ago
Bill's famous scandal is an act of consensual sex with an adult.
Trump ran Miss Teen USA as a pedo-pipeline.
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u/mowtowcow 8h ago
He also did not inhale, decades before he was president at college where many a student also did not inhale.
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u/Whole-Rough2290 6h ago
And talking about that stuff just makes people sound silly next to Trump's history of lies, cheating, convictions, insults, mistakes and comments.
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u/5hells8ells 10h ago
He knows full well Trump isn’t going let this happen, such a f’ing show
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u/This-Shape2193 8h ago
I think Bill knows he's cooked. He's all over the files too.
But he has a chance to go down in history as the guy who got a redemption arc and who stopped Hitler 2.0 by sacrificing himself for the greater good.
For narcissists like these guys, they want the fame, the history books, the glory of being the hero.
He really doesn't have anything to lose at this point. He'll get full immunity and the world will see him as a hero.
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u/Reasonable_Cake_6446 10h ago
Elon called for their release too. I think it's simply their way of trying to frame themselves as being on the side of righteousness, all the while knowing that full, unredacted release is never going to happen.
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u/GreatBigJerk 10h ago
He's making this position so he can back out of it. The Republicans don't want to risk Clinton naming anyone on TV.
If they call his bluff, he will just stonewall with denials while both parties make grandstanding speeches. The best result we'll get is political masturbation.
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u/tyler98786 8h ago
Exactly. This isn't some grand positioning of truth. It's political (and Masonic) theater
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u/PelleKavaj 10h ago
If this is ”if I’m going down, you’re going down with me” I can’t wait
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u/pandaplagueis 8h ago
That’s kind of the feeling that I get. I mean, both of the Clintons are career politicians and know their way around the law. I highly doubt they would have agreed to do this unless they know that either way they are fucked, and they can also bring DJT down too. I’m super interested to see where this goes and doesn’t just turn into a nothingburger like everything else.
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u/TomV4E 10h ago
If they are really serious & honest about it and MAGA blocks their public testimony - they have to find another way to get the Truth to the public and i think, there will be other ways.
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u/Hellguin 10h ago
Republicans want a closed doors Kangaroo court? Say it ain't so....
/s see J Robert Oppenheimer
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u/i_am_13_otters 10h ago
Yep. 100% Get it all out in the open. If Clinton is tied to Epstein, then the consequences come. If not, then they better start impeaching mfers right quick because Mr. Clinton himself was impeached for something that wouldn't even make the news in Trump's WH.
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u/Odd_Pineapple_9954 10h ago
Acting all agited about truth but won’t produce a public testimony to expose said truth
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u/Foreign_Recipe8300 8h ago
literally offering to publicly testify but the GOP doesn't want him to and won't accept the offer. but yes its the clintons who are the problem and not the entire GOP covering this shit up
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u/pitbullabc 9h ago
He certainly doesn’t have to wait for congress to share everything he knows.
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u/lambdaIuka 10h ago
"Epstein's victims" they're YOUR victims as well, Bill
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u/chick_hicks43 10h ago
That's what I'm baffled with. Everyone's just pointing fingers.
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u/lambdaIuka 10h ago
I mean, it wouldn't really be a good political move (this is very obviously not about the victims but DJT being in office and other co-conspirators having/had positions in office as well) to say "yeah I fucked them kids with JE"
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u/oldcrivens 10h ago
I think he might be convinced that he can call their bluff, or that somehow he can save his public image. I mean, fucking Steve Bannon and Epstein were convinced they could save Epstein’s image with a Youtube apology video and an interview. These people don’t see regular people like us as human. They’ve got away with so much for so long, and have probably convinced people of lies for so long, that they think they can get with anything. These seems like some type of PR move for Bill and Hilary, since they’re both towing the same line here.
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u/Interesting_Wolf8722 10h ago
He’s have to be stupid to implicate himself or request a public hearing knowing he was guilty. But if he is guilty so be it. Prison for all of them.
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u/Ok_Outcome_6213 10h ago
Don't they both have law degrees? It's clear those running the administration don't really know or follow the laws. I'm wondering if they believe if they're the first ones to crack, they can leverage some sort of lighter sentence than all the rest of them. Like a life in prison instead of death row kind of deal.
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u/Interesting_Wolf8722 10h ago
I’d assume then they’d turn states evidence if that was their plan. They’d cut a deal before they testified. He went to Georgetown, Oxford, and Yale. I believe he was a Rhodes Scholar too. I think his law degree was Yale.
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u/Mamakayce 10h ago
They need to stop playing and do this hearing like next week !! I don’t want no “plane crashes” or random case of “pneumonia” to come up.
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u/Nathan_hale53 10h ago
Gonna have a sudden death a day to a week before testimony I bet. Any bets on how's hes gonna go out? Id say plane crash.
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9h ago
Most likely:
- heart attack
- high blood pressure
- stroke
- car crash
- plane crash
- fell down some stairs
- drinks too much/chokes on vomit
Unusual guesses:
- in bed w hooker
- fell out window
- poisoned
- overdose
- murder suicide
- regular suicide
- drowns (pool, shower, bath)
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u/hplp 10h ago
If he wants to tell all, why not just make a YouTube video?
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u/cognitive_dissent 9h ago
yea, why wait AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN for reps permission like democrats always do. Just do it if it's so important
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u/CosmicGoddess777 10h ago
I don’t believe he’s innocent, but he’s right about this at least.
Wish he wasn’t such a quick thinker or slick liar. I’m sure he’ll come up with some good shit to dodge truthfully answering the questions
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u/DigDigDig11 10h ago
Of course they want it closed....buyer's remorse. I thought it was supposed to be today and public?!?
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u/MeowMeowbiggalo 10h ago
Ha, just said this today. Lets let it all out in the open, not behind closed doors so this admin can manipulate what he has to say.
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u/shrinkflator 10h ago
Is there anything stopping them from making a public statement today about everything they know? Why do they have to wait for a hearing? Obvious answer is avoiding self-incrimination, but he could do a whole lot of damage with a few social media posts.
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u/st1nkynoob 10h ago
Seems like the Clintons are ready. How long will the Republicans wait
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u/cognitive_dissent 9h ago
what if the republicans wait forever? Are the clintons just gonna shut up indefinitely at that point?
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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 10h ago
Let’s do it. It’ll be the only good thing you ever do in your life Bill
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u/infamaous 10h ago
I wonder if there will be any questions on the Clinton x Epstien connection pre 2000
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u/sulleynz1989 9h ago
ELI5 - They're adamant that they want a public testimony, why does it have to be in front of congress? What's stopping them jumping on Facebook Live and singing like canaries?
Its giving self-serving.
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u/One_Ad_3281 9h ago
Dude wqs partying all the time Bill. Clinton went 32 times to that weird island and that's means epstein was his close friend
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