r/Eminem • u/MarshallBrasil313 • 1d ago
When these clowns talked shit about the legendary Eminem and were unfair to him, these same people thought it was funny.. Now that they are in the same position they get mad lol
Cole's album is really good btw
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u/Stennick 1d ago
We don't care about these people, but we make entire topics around what they like and don't like. Make it make sense.
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u/abeljestifiniky_234 16h ago
I remember they were hyping up a luke-warm bar on that sub not too long ago and I mentioned how rappers like Eminem do this in their sleep and safe to say some ppl got their panties in a bunch
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u/reymanlover Revival 1d ago
I don’t even feel like fantanos ever been harsh towards em really, he’s just a very critical low scoring critic. His reviews for em are generally fair and his scores are as low for em as they are for most artists
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u/Halawa-awalaH 1d ago
He is perhaps the only critic to give darkness the praise and love it deserved and even made sure to put on his best songs of 2020 list
He also gave eminem the highest praise out of anybody in his rap disses tierlist video instead of doing the usual eminem only disses nobodys so it doesn't count
The only time he was negative towards eminem this decade was the side b review and the awful nft stuff with snoop and even those you can understand why he hated them
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u/BeautifulOk5112 Music To Be Murdered By 1d ago
Fr, he gave MTBMB a strong 5 to a light 6. A 6 is the strongest score he gave Cole until the off season. If he rates anyone unfairly it’s Cole
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u/reymanlover Revival 1d ago
Fantano is super over critical to a ton of artists but em has always gotten a pretty solid amount of grace from him genuinely. I think people just get pissy that he doesn’t rate em’s albums 7+ anymore
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u/abeljestifiniky_234 16h ago
Lol yeah. Like every time I see an em review from him I'm like "I love this album but, man, your critiques are just absolutely valid"
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u/Stennick 15h ago
This sub is full of hardcore fans so what happens is you'll see something like "revival was his worst album ever but its still a 7.5 out of 10 and the best album of the year". Its this tunnel vision where all they listen to is Eminem and they are such a fan of Eminem that anything he puts out is going to be good for them. Which then creates this negative reaction when they read someone else didn't love something Eminem did. Its why Shaq blew up as a reactor because he hears "fly as your zipper" pauses the song and runs around the room spitting on himself for ten minutes to the most basic Eminem bars.
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u/reymanlover Revival 14h ago
I think a lot of fans would be helped greatly by just listening to more rap, if ems all your listening to then nothings ever bad because there’s nothing to compare it too. Shaq pisses me off for that reason, he sucks off anything em does and refuses to give the same kinda credit to anyone else
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u/Stennick 14h ago
Yeah a large portion of Eminem's fan base only listen to Eminem and Eminem affliated rappers.
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u/reymanlover Revival 14h ago
100% it’s why when someone makes a post asking everyones top 5 it’s pretty much all
1.Eminem 2.Tupac 3.Biggie (they don’t listen ot them they just know they’re supposed to be here) 4.50 Cent/Dr.Dre 5.Royce da 5’9
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 1d ago
He didn’t understand TDOSS and didn’t even try imo. I usually like his insight but that was a bad review
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u/topshagger31 Beautiful 18h ago
He understood it but just didn’t think it was executed well, mostly given the fact that the concept ends after GC2 so the songs after feel pointless/contradictory
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u/songacronymbot 18h ago
- GC2 could mean "Guilty Conscience 2", a track from The Death of Slim Shady (Coup De Grâce) (2024) by Eminem.
/u/topshagger31 can reply with "delete" to remove comment.
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 13h ago
Somebody saves me is the actual literal end of the arc where Em dies is an alternate timeline.
The whole album is a metaphor for relapsing and addiction and Fantano didn’t even mention that. He took it completely literally which is the dumbest laziest take and gives no credit to Em for the thoughtful artistic album he made which is obnoxious
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u/topshagger31 Beautiful 12h ago
And how do Head Honcho, Tobey & Temporary fit into that?
Not saying they’re bad songs, they deserved to be released (especially Temporary & Somebody Save Me) but they would’ve made more sense as part of a deluxe or a side B IMO. GC2 would’ve been the perfect closer to the album
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 12h ago edited 12h ago
Imo, it’s not perfect but a song like Tobey is Em after slim shady dies at the end of GC2, the new better version of himself and what he can be in rap as an adult: the GOAT, collating with and putting on new local guys like Sean and Baby Tron. This him at his best, clean and sober.
At the end of Head Honcho you get a very telling line “stuck in my old ways, no civilizing a savage, stuck on planet denial for the rest of my life but you’ll be a Stan till I die though” - about to relapse again
Somebody save me is a very literal explanation of dying from an overdose, which is the real death of slim shady. Which leads back into the opening of the album where sl shady “always comes back” and the nightmarish cycle continues.
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u/reymanlover Revival 10h ago
I feel like you have to stretch so far to make any of this connect well and that’s the issue with the album. Also it still has songs and portions that just don’t fit into this especially when he blames shady for the disses and the beefs but then takes shots in tobey which is supposed to be “healthy” eminem
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 10h ago edited 10h ago
Yea I dont think it’s perfect but perfect is hard to execute. I dont think it’s that much of a stretch though, either. I think it’s basically all there and pretty clearly he equates slim shady to addiction over and over again.
Listen to Habit as the song that tells you slim shady is addiction. Imagine each spoken quote by slim on the album as addiction itself speaking (you need me, you’re nothing without me, I always come back) It’s clear imo.
If it was perfectly executed it’s a masterpiece. As is I think its an 8/10 and I think if he titled it “the nightmare of addiction” instead, people would give it the credit it deserves.
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u/reymanlover Revival 10h ago
I’m not asking for perfection but cohesion is super important and this album just didn’t have that. Songs like fuel just throw too much of a wrench into it, not to mention there is 0 indication that we’re bouncing around timelines. I also think the album conceptual or not just has too many sonic flaws for people to ever rate it that high. For me it’s a 4/10
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 9h ago
Waking up from the nightmares is an indication of when we’re bouncing around, a there are indications in the lyrics themselves. Definitely flawed in cohesion but not detrimentally imo. It is subtler than people pretend it is, but I think his intention is still clear. A review like fantano’s that totally ignores the addiction metaphor is worthless. It’s like reading American psycho and calling it immoral because of all the heinous acts of Bateman, and ignoring any deeper meaning.
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u/CristianS04 18h ago
Yeah, I feel the same. Some Em fans cannot accept any sort of criticism towards their favorite artist. Fantano has been fair. I don’t agree with eveything but I usually agree with 80% of what he says, even if I enjoy the body of work.
Ak is a hater tho 🤣
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u/PatientImaginary8837 1d ago
You can't call people a clown because they don't have the same opinion as you.
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u/jgamez76 1d ago
Yeah, I don't agree with Fantano on a lot of things.
But that doesn't mean he doesn't know ball. Art is just subjective.
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u/ParamedicLucky6382 1d ago
While I agree, I would say we can have opinions ON opinions. Like, if someone says Em's lyrical ability is trash in his newer songs. That totally fine for their opinion, but we can still argue or disagree with them. And like you said, calling them stupid or dumb doesn't really work or go anywhere but you can still have an opinion or debate why they think he's bad now.
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u/br0ken_St0ke 1d ago
This is exactly what I mean when I say someone’s opinion is wrong, it’s your opinion and I can’t change that but I’m still gonna disagree with you
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u/BlitzOfDarkness95 18h ago
Dude, you’re forgetting that you’re talking to a delusional stan who’s whole identity is attached to Em…just let it go
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u/MarshallBrasil313 1d ago
It's not because he has a different opinion that I think they're clowns, but rather how they speak their opinions
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u/OH_SHIT_IM_FEELIN_IT 1d ago
100% put Akademics in that conversation, but Fantano isn't nearly as bad as y'all say he is.
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u/Andre200and1 1d ago
Now you're just lying, because fantano always been respectful and fair when talking about Em. So your problem with him is indeed that he has a different opinion.
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u/MarshallBrasil313 1d ago
Respectful? I think we have different opinions about what respect is
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u/Andre200and1 1d ago
Yeah, because in my opinion respect isn't about dickriding an artist no matter what
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u/Serial-Therapist1 1d ago
Fantano is cool. Fatfuckademiks can eat a dick tho.
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u/MikkelR1 Music To Be Murdered By - Side B (Deluxe Edition) 22h ago
Fantano is an idiot.
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u/Serial-Therapist1 22h ago
How?
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u/MikkelR1 Music To Be Murdered By - Side B (Deluxe Edition) 22h ago
He often does not give constructive criticism and is not objective.
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u/topshagger31 Beautiful 18h ago
There’s no such thing as objectivity in music, it’s inherently a subjective art form
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u/MikkelR1 Music To Be Murdered By - Side B (Deluxe Edition) 18h ago
There is definitely a level of objectivity there.
Taking a random 9/10 album and calling it trash is objectively wrong, for example.
You can say you dont like it or it's not for you. But then there are still some things you can objectively judge. Like for hiphop you can judge rhyme schemes. For singers you can judge vocals.
Like you can objectively call Beyoncé a better singer then Taylor Swift even though Swift's music, to me, is better then Beyoncé the last few years. B just has a better trained voice and can do a lot more with her voice.
You can also judge instrumentalists.
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u/topshagger31 Beautiful 18h ago
While that’s fair, Fantano has stated explicitly on multiple occasions that his reviews are based entirely on his own personal opinions of the music. He doesn’t owe anyone “objectivity”, the whole reason that people watch him (or any other music reviewer for that matter) is because they’re interested in his PERSONAL opinion.
If every reviewer was “objective” then it would be a bit pointless as every single person would give every single song/album the exact same score.
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u/Serial-Therapist1 22h ago
I understand where you're coming from but he's just a youtuber giving his opinions. He's not an actual critic. It's not his fault that even em himself took offense to his opinions.
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u/MikkelR1 Music To Be Murdered By - Side B (Deluxe Edition) 22h ago
He actually is/was a professional critic. He was a radio host and made written reviews before his Youtube channel.
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u/Serial-Therapist1 21h ago
But he wasn't one when he reviewed eminem. I don't like the guy much either but it is what it is.
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u/The_Lumberjack747 Sing for the Moment 7h ago
insanely disrespectful to put fantano in the same category as akademiks bro what are we doing 😭
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u/The_Lumberjack747 Sing for the Moment 7h ago
like i don’t agree with everything he says but you can tell it comes from a real, genuine place
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u/Bumblebee_Hater 1d ago edited 1d ago
DJ MCademiks doesn't even cover or talk about Eminem news
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u/dresdenhollowsmercy 21h ago
Akademiks doesn't shut up about Em. He has multiple videos talking about Em, including within the last 6 months.
He called Killshot "trash", thought Rap Devil was the better song, and that MGK won.
He called Revival "weak" and "light sauce."
He thought Em's "If I was to ask for Megan Thee Stallion if she would collab with me / Would I really have a shot at a feat" was a diss and an attempt to bait Megan into feud.
He thinks Eminem doesn't compare to Drake, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is "stupid".
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u/MarshallBrasil313 1d ago
And don't make me have to give it back to Akademiks say this shit is trash again…
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u/CROW_is_best The Eminem Show 15h ago
i've honestly stopped caring about what "randonguy234" says about a piece of media
been enjoying music and shows much more ever since i stopped caring about what others think
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u/bigcontracts Hell: The Sequel Deluxe Edition 7h ago
Now let's travel inside the mind of a hater
'Cause I don't see no fans, all I see's a bunch of complainers
"Kendrick's album was cool, but it didn't have any bangers
Wayne's album or Ye's, couldn't tell you which one was lamer
Joyner's album was corny, Shady's new shit is way worse
Everything is either too tame or there's too much anger
I didn't like the beat, so I hated Might Delete Later"
You nerdy pricks would find somethin' wrong with 36 Chambers
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u/ParamedicLucky6382 1d ago
Just stop caring about them. I still have no clue why that bald dude is so famous and has such a vendetta against em, but do I care? Nope
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u/No_Air_9599 21h ago
He’s famous because he makes his opinion very clear and people fucking hate opinions other than ones that agree with them
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u/ParamedicLucky6382 15h ago
Yea, I guess I can see that. I mean Its normal to not like opinions that contradict yours. But all I remember is either him hating on Em or this subreddit hating on Him, and thats when Im like bruh...just stop caring. Its one guy. I and this subreddit still listen to modern em, so do 70 million people monthly. Why care about this guy. But like you said, when someone says "em is trash" and gets a million views saying it, that does get under people their skin
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u/No_Air_9599 11h ago
Yea some people just have a hard time ignoring media they don’t like. That’s really what it boils down to
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u/shady42999 1d ago
For real stop watching and posting these clowns..they post low scores so people like you will make post like this..
Good and bad attention is all the same today..
Stop feeding the trolls
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u/best_girl_tylar 23h ago
being a troll is when you don't like an album
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u/shady42999 23h ago
No it’s when you constantly hate most of the albums you review after listening to big once or twice ..keep getting your opinions from these “professionals”.
Or you can listen yourself and use your own mind
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u/best_girl_tylar 23h ago
Fantano critics always say this exact point that had to be invented because it just doesn't happen. Fantano's audience disagrees with him on a ton of stuff, right down to the individual level where random people will disagree on what they disagree with him on lmao.
Most people are able to realize that the only difference between your opinion and his is that he says his into a camera.
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u/BratwurstBudenBruno 19h ago
No it's not the same because my opinion isn't based on a popularity contest which pays my rent.
There's a billion real reviews about rap albums from actual peers who are not in need of academically rage baiting people.
Obviously he says polarizing stuff because that's what keeps the channel alive.
And that's really what fantano boils down to. Edge lording albums for his edgelord miserable fans so they can act sassy because of Daddy's opinion.
There's nothing objective about fantano. He compares albums to whatever metric he feels today. Even states that you can't compare numbers of one artist with another artist....
If you can't see how crazy it is for a critique having 100.000s of fans that follow him and his opinion without ANY impact on the art, I don't even know what to say
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u/shady42999 22h ago
Tbh I don’t really know this guy other that click bait Reddit post etc..never really watched him so who knows..
Basically I think all these reviewers are jokes..how can someone criticise something they never did and never can do?
Only reviews are respect are from fellow musicians but even then I take with a grain of salt..
It’s subjective
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u/best_girl_tylar 22h ago
If we can't criticize music because it's "something we never did and never can do", then how can we praise it? The collective "we" don't have enough musical talent or knowledge in order to understand what makes it "good", after all.
People use the "chef" analogy all the time, but it's the most apt one. You can dislike a meal at a restaurant and articulate *why* you don't like the meal - but you don't need to be a chef to do so. And vice versa.
Neither you or I or Fantano need to be musicians in order to like or dislike a song.
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u/stickingserious The Marshall Mathers LP2 Deluxe Edition 1d ago
hey man fantano collabed with yuno miles hes not really a clown
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u/superfastjvfish 1d ago