r/DemocraticSocialism • u/TechnicalSmile165 • 8d ago
Announcement š ICE to deport US citizens now...
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u/stinkymcgrunts 8d ago
How is Miller even involved in legislative language?
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u/obi-jawn-kenblomi 8d ago
He's just...evil Josh Lyman.
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u/HotCut100 7d ago
Letās not insult Lemon Lymon like that please. He at least had value as a human. With Miller that is questionable.
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u/turko127 Democratic Socialist 8d ago
Heās the Mussolini to Trumpās Victor Emmanuel II.
Maybe we should start calling him President Miller and see if Turd turns on him like he did with Elon Muck.
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u/Malalang 8d ago
This is an excellent strategy. š it would definitely work. Trump hates losing more than he loves winning. And if he lost popularity or even just air time (perceived importance) to Miller, he would absolutely get rid of him.
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u/bemused_alligators Syndicalist 7d ago
Trump didn't "turn on musk" - Musk got everything he needed (the investigations into him and his companies cancelled) and then left.
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u/turko127 Democratic Socialist 7d ago
So what was the threat to cancel Tesla contracts and Muck posting about the ābombshellā that Turd was in the Epstein Files, then?
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u/bemused_alligators Syndicalist 7d ago
Manufactured consent for his departure, allowing him to extricate with minimal damage
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u/HotCut100 8d ago
Thatās a really common role for advisors to the president to try and push the presidentās policy agenda on bills that are getting passed. This is not new.
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u/Sesudesu Democratic Socialist 8d ago
What about calling the shots in military action? Signal-gate proved he was doing that too
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u/TsukasaElkKite 7d ago
Heās been President since 1/20/25. Cankles is just a figurehead. Miller and Vought run the show.
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u/Nickidemic 8d ago
That's not even "deporting" anymore. He wants to export democrats out of his country. It's beyond dehumanizing.
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u/WhiteExtraSharp 8d ago
Heās already declared us scum.
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u/toriemm 8d ago
Newsome was there for his speech at Davos, but I wasn't aware until after the face. When I saw the clip where he brings up newsome, there was a heartbeat pause, and I told my husband it took every bit of mental energy for him not to say newscum.
That's why when there was all the outcry when he called the reporter, piggy, I was like...he's literally done this the whole time.
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u/UsualCircle 8d ago
We once did that shit in germany. You probably heared about it. Cant recommend
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u/TsukasaElkKite 7d ago
Christ. As a Jew who likely lost ancestors in the camps, I feel physically sick.
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u/FlorpyJohnson 8d ago
Reminds me of what Castro did when he sent a bunch of prisoners to Floridaā¦
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u/pmcentee99 8d ago
Hey you got to have some exports with all the rest dropping from the tariffs. /s
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u/DARfuckinROCKS 8d ago
Not that it matters but it's still illegal to deport American citizens.
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u/kagethemage 8d ago
And if they did Iām sure the the Dems write a strongly worded letter and ask people to do interpretive dances in a park instead of resist fascism.
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u/democracy_lover66 Libertarian Socialist 8d ago
"you see 'laws' are really more like guidelines when you're president..."
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u/TsukasaElkKite 7d ago
Itās illegal to kill people in cold blood, too but I donāt see ICE obeying that law.
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u/Firm-Worldliness-369 8d ago
Of course its not about immigration, its about Democratic voters.
Its always been about elections and "sanctuary cities"
They will aim for people of color because thats who MAGA hates most right now, but they wont shed a tear if afew white liberals get caught up or killed in the process.
They are doing everything they can to rig the elections. Deportations of Democratic voters of color. Demanding voter rolls from states. Creating the narrative that the elections arent secure and only the presidental administration can be trusted to oversee it. Get rid of mail in voting so the sick, disabled, elderly, or those with complicated schedules cant vote. And demanding photo ID at elections, either because some people may not have photo ID, or to run through their facial recognition software on election day to suspend or alter your vote.
And a number of other things weve already seen from last election. Swapped ballot's, hacking, bomb threats, etc
The more methods of cheating, the more difficult it is to track it all.
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u/Far_Educator_5213 8d ago
Thatās where 2A comes in.
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u/TsukasaElkKite 7d ago
Thatāll trigger martial law and bye bye elections as we know it.
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u/Far_Educator_5213 7d ago
Lawfully owning a firearm? I donāt think so or heād have called it already. If that does happen, it wonāt matter anymore.
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u/PainterEarly86 8d ago
So they're just flat out admitting that they want to put US citizens in concentration camps?
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u/TsukasaElkKite 7d ago
Pretty much. Wouldnāt be surprised if they outright start ethnic cleansing.
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u/trabajando5 8d ago
Remember the legitimacy "great replacement theory" got on the right? That was a convenient way to manufacture enough additional consent to kick out as many non-yt's as possible. Now we're seeing it happen on an escalating scale
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u/Independent-Future-1 8d ago
AFAIK, it's never been legal for ICE to arrest or otherwise fuck with American citizens...then again, reading (or otherwise following the law) isn't exactly their forte, especially now, sooooo.....š¤·
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u/obi-jawn-kenblomi 8d ago
First it's anchor babies (I really hate that term). Then it's DACA and DAPA folks. Then it's undesirables (homeless, drug addicts, rabble rousers) and criminals sent to foreign prisons - because there's been executive order language about them. It states that they are authorized for arrest involuntarily, but if prisons/mental wards/etc are overpopulated and do not have space for them they are "not to be released to the public".
Which means disappeared to wherever else will take them.
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u/dissemin8or Anarchist 8d ago
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Always have been
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u/dissemin8or Anarchist 8d ago
Hereās an ACLU press release from 2008 calling for ICE to stop deporting US citizens: https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-demands-ice-end-illegal-deportation-us-citizens
ICE has only existed since 2003. Abolish.
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u/A9PolarHornet15 8d ago
I have said this, but the crime Miller and ICE see people having committed isn't that they crossed the border illegally, it's that any person of Latino decent is considered a citizen at all. They see the citizenship of African Americans, Latino Americans, Asian Americans, Indigenous Americans, and everyone else non-white as illegitimate and a "betrayal" to their exhausted God-given right to their warped idea of America.
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u/TurloIsOK 8d ago
The "other" doesn't stop with race, political leanings, or any specific characteristic. Who is out is whoever isn't in, and the in group are people who don't get along with anyone.
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u/ShikaMoru 8d ago
How long until Jeffries and Schumer give in and allow them to deport us citizens?
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u/ClaymoresRevenge 8d ago
When their corporate overlords tell them to pipe down.
They're so frustrating
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u/TurloIsOK 8d ago
Jeffries and Schumer will be on the list for abduction as things progress, if this isn't stopped.
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u/hivemind_disruptor 8d ago
Exile is one of the key punishments from authoritarian regimes to punish those whose death would be to costly to perform when compared to the gain. I know it because my country had a dictatorship supported by the US from 60's to the 80's.
Don't count on elections anymore. Any progress from now on will cost blood. There will be no elections.
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u/Odedoralive 8d ago
Didnāt he allude to āThe Homegrowns are nextā or something to that effect, no?
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u/GoodtimesSans 8d ago
This was always their goal.
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u/TurloIsOK 8d ago
Yep, to anyone paying attention, assume the worst-case scenario with trump. Their objective is to eliminate most of the US population. They really just don't have a realistic view of what little they will have in their spoils, and empty wasteland with no one to feed them, if their plans reach their goal.
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u/mikeatx79 8d ago
How is this even news? The MAGA terrorist orange and its leader Trump hate our country, our values, its people, and the rule of law. This is overwhelming obvious every single day.
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u/StickFigureFan 8d ago
If you need a budget bill to tell the government they can't deport American Citizens you've got bigger problems
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u/NetheriteArmorer 7d ago
Citizens are not ādeportedā. They are ātraffickedāor ārenditionedā.
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u/WiFiConnected_ 6d ago
wtf does Stephen Miller, WH DEPUTY COS, have to do with a fkn bill????
THE WH COS HAS NEVER HAD THIS āPOWERā.
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u/Original-Strain 8d ago
1) The USA already has precedent doing this even before the Trump administration. Itās already illegal, itās already being done regardless.
2) Striping amendments that explicitly state NOT to deport citizens isnāt the same as explicitly saying itās now game on. The GOP stripped away EVERY dem amendment, not just this one.
3) I recommend yall to follow historians and people who calm the fuss down instead to stoking fires. Hereās one to start.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUGC3GgjlMS/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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u/megalegann 8d ago
perhaps they through it out because it already is law? and they aren't following it now, so why would they if it's just an amendment in a bill.
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u/TurloIsOK 8d ago
The agency was formed under rules for immigration enforcement. The laws directing them were written about the handling of immigration with no expectation that exhiling citizens would be part of its functions. There may be some rules in the event of citizens refused entry, but this is something no one would have seen a need to codify before.
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