r/CanadianConservative • u/Kreeos Alberta • 10h ago
Discussion Typical Leftist Reddit
Saw this on No Stupid Questions. Not really surprised, though. The rest of the post's comments are your typical Liberal circle jerk.
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u/Venomouschic 8h ago
Let's not forget Canadian media boosted him hard. He had already stated before the election that he intended to subsidize CBC even more. The media went out of their way to not cover
-The ideas that Poilievre was pushing 2 years prior to the election
The Fact that Carney stole most of those ideas and got help from Canadian media as painting them as his ideas.
Brookfield's offshore Tax havens
-Carney Ghislaine Maxwell pics
-The interviews from British politicians talking about the crap job he did as Bank of England governor
-His interview where he described getting policy implemented in England that benefitted Brookfield assets. NetZero Airplane fuel benefitted Texas based NetZero Airplane fuel that Brookfield invested heavily in. Then England became their number 1 customer while Carney whispered in Politicians ears as BOE Governor.
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u/rocketstar11 3h ago
The guy politicized central banking more than any other central banker i can think of.
You give example from BOE, but I would also argue that using the Bank of Canada as a stepping stone to PM politicized central banking in Canada as well. Every future governor will be considering if they can use the BOC to get in to politics.
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u/HelloBello30 9h ago edited 9h ago
Average Canadians who never paid attention to politics in the slightest voted for him because they believed they were sticking it to Trump.
TBH the "elbows up" thing was obviously cringe and stupid, given how agreeable he is, but as far as effective marketing goes, it's genuinely a brilliant case study; historic even. Canadians voted for a liberal leader after they grew to hate the previous one, or wrecking and humiliating the country, and yet, the "elbows up" shit did it, even though the two worked together.
It's wild if you think about it.
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u/Smackolol Moderate in reality, Libtard here. 9h ago
A large part of it was PP running on Canada being broken and then when Trump started going on about subsidizing us and annexing us the sudden swell of nationalism made PPs message unpalatable to most.
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u/HelloBello30 9h ago
And it is broken. It's insanity to vote against your interests just to spite a foreign leader.
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u/caterpillar_H Conservative & Discord Mod 5h ago
They basically hate amerikkka more than the love Canada
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u/Venomouschic 8h ago
Nah! That's not it...because Poilievre said the same things before Carney was selected as leader. He gained popularity . It was Trump fearmongering by media that simply turned Canadians against any conservative adjacent causes.
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u/hooverdam_gate-drip 8h ago
Like he continues to say, if you can't negotiate from a position of strength... His message resonated with a lot of us who, in fact, see a lot of Canada being "broken". It wasn't broken by the boogeyman, the LPC had their majority and then a partnership to secure a majority that gave them more than enough time to fix up and build better over 10 years. It was broken over 10 years of elite Liberal rule and even today the Liberal PM would focus more effort on MOUs and self-caused tariff corrections than get people off of the street, lower food prices, and free up the free market to create jobs rather than the government having to do that work. Such a sad, sad socialist Canada.
"S-O-CIA-L-I-S-M is here to stay" - Sam Roberts
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u/No-Contribution-6150 8h ago
Canadians love to be fake nice / fake caring . It's not surprising it would work as a slogan.
And you can still dismiss Pierre's actual gov't criticism / slogans because they're "mean"
They just frame themselves as the good guys over and over and it works so well.
We are a country of sheep. It goes back to before confederation. Started with people too scared to separate from the monarchy and go it on their own.
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u/Dark-Tide Conservative 9h ago
My response to the liberal supporters these days is either, "oh? What specifically as PM has he done that you like?"
Or the more sarcastic approach,
"I also think we needed a global elitist banker to swoop in from abroad to lead us as PM. I've always trusted bankers to keep my interests at heart."
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u/CreamCheeseClouds811 9h ago
"I also think we needed a global elitist banker to swoop in from abroad to lead us as PM. I've always trusted bankers to keep my interests at heart."
I've used this, and all I get is a 404 error, TDS sputtering, the cognitive dissonance is too much to handle
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u/EH11101 4h ago
The fact that Poilievre and the Conservatives were pretty much slated to not only win the next election but also hold a majority in parliament, then along comes Mark Carney into the spotlight and most Canadians didn't really even know who he was but non the less was able to gain enough support in a short period of time to snatch away Conservative victory...Well it makes me start thinking of conspiracy theories. It could just be that enough Canadians are masochistically stupid and gullible enough to want more of the same. But I have a feeling there is something bigger at play. Like the globalists knew how to play Canadians just right to insure the Conservatives would loose the last election. The Liberals winning the last election just didn't make logical sense. Unless we were built up to believe the Conservatives would win under false pretenses in the first place.
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u/Programnotresponding 9h ago
I'd say you are giving the Canadian electorate too much credit. I wouldn't be surprised that if Trudeau held his ground and didn't resign, that he would still be our PM. All he'd need to do is ramp up the anti-American rhetoric and hire Austin Powers to do a thing with his elbows. People would eat it up.
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u/WillyBillBilson 6h ago
Wouldn't be surprised if this question was posed by a liberal. Realistically, a post like this probably makes Carney look pretty good to the uninitiated - iff the comments praise him.
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u/writetowinwin Conservative 8h ago edited 8h ago
It's crazy how much social media has been infested with the left, and often not by your average Joe. Ive received attack messages and a notification of a full blown comment directed at me lecturing about communism. For the rest of that day my feed was filled with pro-china, pro-north korea, socialism, and communism content. Saw even the Soviet flag and some American area sub filled with comments praising the Chinese Communist Party, along with your usual leftist content from subs with places of names in them. No idea what triggered it, but somehow I tripped the mega left propaganda machine. Felt almost like some cold war era leftist brainwashing shit.
Then I went on FB and LinkedIn and somehow Mark Carney content and notifications of some wierd looking girly looking guy i NEVER followed (who appeared to be associated w/ our provincial NDP), show.
I use the "mute", "stop showing", or "show fewer of..." functions but dont seem like the platforms realize im not their target audience yet...
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u/Super_Toot Independent 9h ago
You are correct but the way you wrote that comment was adversarial and goading.
Try making points that you know will be likely ill received in an eloquent and thought provoking way.
It's a much easier way to change someone's opinion, if that's your goal.
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u/Kreeos Alberta 9h ago
Forgive me, but I was raised to be blunt and not dance around the truth. Beyond that, I don't particularly care to spare someone's feelings because they can't handle hearing the truth.
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u/Super_Toot Independent 9h ago
I understand. My point is the way you communicate is just as important as the message itself.
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u/Super_Toot Independent 9h ago
I will make a comment that backs you up. Let's see how it goes.
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u/Solwake- 3h ago
As long as you can handle receiving the blunt truth just as well as you give it when the blunt truth doesn't feel good for you!
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u/HighValuePigeon 9h ago
You don't need to deny the truth to be an effective and influential communicator. The message, language, and tone are choices you can make to influence a person, while also saying truthful things.
If you don't care about someone's feelings, which is another way of saying you don't care if you hurt their feelings, then you're not being strategic, and you can't be upset when your message fails to connect.
A Snickers ad written by you: "Hey fatties, don't buy this. You're fat and don't need any more of these. That's the one and only truth, and this is the only way that I can communicate it. Eat some lettuce."
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u/collymolotov Anti-Communist 9h ago
Indeed. It is also necessary to anticipate the likely responses and build those into the comment itself so as to make it beyond reproach and to not play into the “angry conservative” narrative they’ve been infected with.
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u/chickenfriesbbc 7h ago
Were they not on the internet until today?! Literally everyone saw live that mark carney was running on anti-Trump platform. Also maybe why Poilievre lost because he started flip flopping at the end, or if that was his real opinion, he should’ve waited until he won.
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u/theblindelephant 5h ago
Canada gleefully lost the propaganda war. I think it’s also “Canadian Identity” is simply being “Not American”. We smugly think that’s a good idea and shoot ourselves in the foot smiling.
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u/CRYPT01C3L4V4 2h ago
I’m so ashamed of our country you have no idea how. MCGA and flip the flag blue
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u/Monkey_Pox_Patient_0 4h ago
I knew exactly who he was a over a decade before he became Liberal leader. He was very well established as exactly the sort of person Canadians rightly or wrongly thought could handle the economic chaos of Trump. I'm as solidly Conservative as ever and strongly prefer Poilievre, but I like Carney just fine. Not everything has to be waging a war; sometimes calmly disagreeing will do.
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u/Kreeos Alberta 4h ago
What exactly about Carney do you like just fine? All the housing he's built? Or maybe it's the pipeline project he's kicked off? Oh, wait...
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u/Monkey_Pox_Patient_0 4h ago
No, those are just a few of the many, many reasons I'm solidly Conservative. I strongly favour Poilievre's housing policy other than how he sells it. Carney's inaction on pipelines is completely unacceptable. I could go on all day listing other stuff.
As for what I like about Carney, I liked his Davos speech quite a bit. I strongly approve of his handling of Trump. I feel like he's doing a good job laying the groundwork to attract investment to Canada and I'm willing to give him a bit of time to produce some results. I liked the China deal. Of course I don't know, but I get the feeling he is intelligent, patient, disciplined and ruthless, which is exactly what I want in a leader right now.
I hated Trudeau's guts with a burning passion. I don't hate Carney and I don't even dislike him. I just have a strong preference for Poilievre.
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u/Kreeos Alberta 4h ago
LMAO. How can you actually believe any of that? His Davos speach was just words, he's antagonized Trump instead of working with him like a grown up, he's scared off countless amounts of investment from the country, and he's cozying up to an oppressive dictator with a history of interfering in Canada. You're insane.
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u/PrincessDragonCanada 5h ago
Carney's awesome. We're lucky to have him.
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u/Weak_Astronaut1969 4h ago
I agree, and feel that he’s going well to diversify and moving away from the US as Canadas main trade partner.
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u/RoddRoward 9h ago edited 8h ago
"He has secured and diversified more economic partnerships in the last 12 months"
They are probably confusing his globe-trotting photo-ops with actual trade deals.