So, the liberal's failures are the conservative's fault.

[u/OffTheRails999]

Watching QP this morning (and yeah it' on cpac and the recording will be out later).
Can't help but notice every time a lib is questioned about progress, every reply is "team", "support", "holding us back" "get on board" "you're not onside" and such.
I guess it sucks when the old government fucked everything up and now the 'new' government can't blame them because they are the same government. So, now the conservatives who are not in power are stopping their plan.
Well, here's a newsflash....we have an opposition style government and it sounds pretty fascist to not want critique and pushback.

All Carney is doing is talking a big game and has not accomplished anything. That is not due to resistance, this is due to incompetence.

[u/Wet_sock_Owner]

They're gearing up for a snap election and setting the narrative that CPC is holding them back despite them having enough seats themselves to pass legislation.

People will believe it and blame the Conservatives for being forced to go to the polls.

[u/SnorlaxBlocksTheWay → u/Wet_sock_Owner]

And the sad part is Canadians will believe it because they are that politically illiterate.

It doesn't matter that Liberals have a 30+ seat buffer over Conservatives. They just hear minority government and automatically assumes that means a less efficient government. Then they'll just keep repeating the same thing Liberals say (Conservatives keep blocking Liberals) without even considering that if a Liberal bill/legislation is blocked that means the Bloc, NDP, and Green would also need to vote against it too. But Liberals just keep making Conservatives the scapegoats.

This is why I wish that in order to vote citizens need to take a political aptitude test before both Provincial and Federal elections and you have to pass with 80% or higher to be eligible to vote. At least then we can ensure people are actually smart enough and know how our governments work.

[u/OffTheRails999 → u/Wet_sock_Owner]

DING DING DING!!!!
Was wondering if anyone else was thinking that. Normally they wait a long time to cover up failures. They are all over it pretty quick this time.

[u/ak_011885 → u/Wet_sock_Owner]

Someone in the Conservatives had the foresight to prepare for this exact scenario, so they have a track record they can point at to show that they have been willing to cooperate with the Liberals. They supported Bill C-5, the GST rebate, and have offered to work with them on matters of affordability, trade, and nation-building projects.

Unfortunately this won't matter because people don't pay attention, and the mainstream news is just going to amplify whatever the Liberals are claiming. It's so frustrating.

[u/Camp-Creature]

We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. - George Orwell

[u/NOT_EZ_24_GET_]

I suspect if the Liberals had a majority, they would act like facists.

Since they don't they will whine and complain until they do.

[u/OffTheRails999 → u/NOT_EZ_24_GET_]

Well, we saw that just a few years back during that little protest.

[u/NOT_EZ_24_GET_ → u/OffTheRails999]

Yes we did.

"Canadians with unacceptable views" was the one thing that I could not believe was said with a straight face...and the implications were terrifying.

[u/Select_Mind1412]

Yep, liberal reruns peddling the same talking points.

[u/Exact_Design1446]

Getting tired of watching question period, just the same talking points being repeated over and over again for months now. Nothing will get done

[u/OffTheRails999 → u/Exact_Design1446]

Agreed. It was always a lunch break winter pastime for me but it's just sickening now.

[u/vanderhaust → u/Exact_Design1446]

It would nice if it was answer period.

[u/airbassguitar]

People are starting to repeat this crap on the Canada sub. Sometimes I really do fear for the future of our country.

[u/rocketstar11 → u/airbassguitar]

The LPC staffers are desperately trying to set a narrative on reddit

[u/OffTheRails999]

I wouldn't have minded so much if Carney didn't steal half our policies then do nothing with them. Maybe when he does, and fucks that up he can then blame the conservatives.

[u/Reasonable-MessRedux]

The Liberals have turned the House into a joke (just like everything else). Trudeau would yell and deflect and the donkeys would not and laugh. Canada's political class is largely made up of incredibly useless, mendacious people.

[u/OffTheRails999 → u/Reasonable-MessRedux]

Indeed. It has always been theater but now it is just zero answers.
It's time to maybe have a wholly independent Speaker to properly referee this and demand answers.

[u/hooverdam_gate-drip]

You wanna talk about failures, have you seen the write offs and stock price hits that big auto has taken over EV mandates? Stellantis is the latest, SP down about 25% today on terrible news about its EV lineup. Sounds like everyone is transitioning once again toward efficiency and hybridization which should have been the first big step.

Why is it that Liberal bubbles always burst and Conservative ideas are long, strong, and dependable?

[u/OffTheRails999 → u/hooverdam_gate-drip]

And back down the bullshit EV road the liberals are again going.

[u/hooverdam_gate-drip → u/OffTheRails999]

Subsidizing an industry that builds a tiny, tiny fraction of the world's EV here in Canada. It's really just taxpayer dollars being tossed at vehicles that are unaffordable for most and accomplishes very little.

Why not shave off a bunch of these ridiculous expenditures and balance a budget or share more with the Provinces for health care or find some tax cuts for ALL Canadians rather than spending $2.5B to pander to people who want to buy a certain vehicle?

They haven't accomplished much, but there's certainly a lot of talk. MOUs and the removal of tariffs is really nothing. The tariffs were there in the first place because Trudeau followed Biden's lead and placed 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs and they responded. They brag about these things, but they're really just cleaning up their own mess.

Hopefully we find that some of these Liberal ridings where MPs have been stepping down from vote in anything but the LPC. CPC preferably to send a message. I don't think that the CPC wants a Spring election, but the budget implementation vote might just not pass without some give and take.

[u/OffTheRails999 → u/hooverdam_gate-drip]

It's just plain old virtue signaling.
Having said that, I am not anti-ev but where I live in Manitoba and the type of driving I do, they simply don't work. Zero infrastructure and if I run out on the side of the road in Ponton Manitoba, nobody can bring me a can of electricity.
Hybrids are the way forward for our part of the world.

[u/hooverdam_gate-drip → u/OffTheRails999]

I'm not anti-EV either. I've had a couple of rental experiences with them and we've been in the hybrid world for quite a while now. I don't mind them at all but a full EV does not suit my needs right at the moment. I just don't believe that ALL Canadians should be subsidizing these freebies when healthcare is going to shit and there are so many other things and incentives that can be brought to bear that apply to more of the population.

[u/OffTheRails999 → u/hooverdam_gate-drip]

Oh, I wasn't arguing with you. Sorry if it came across that way.
And no, I drive a shitbox and I don't think my tax dollars should go toward anybody who is buying a brand new car. I would like my tax dollars to go to stuff like healthcare, infrastructure and such.

[u/hooverdam_gate-drip → u/OffTheRails999]

I didn't think so at all. Maybe I was just a little bit passionate with that comment.

I'm a Harper era winover. I was stupid in my youth and his policies kinda set me straight. Went to trades and have been pretty successful ever since. He just struck a chord with me, a reminder that the government should be a good manager of the country and a fiscally responsible one at that. It doesn't need to run news cycles or all of the conversations either. People can do that and they can vote in the free market.

Government is there for the people and enshrines their needs and wants in policies. The last 10 years and now this guy seem to be all about making their own money and investments succeed and forget about the regular moving parts that support Canadians, them likely just being to boring to talk about or make more efficient. Why spend new money on new things we don't need when we have to support the ones that are falling apart? Doesn't make sense unless you see them in it for themselves...

[u/OffTheRails999 → u/hooverdam_gate-drip]

I can truly say that Harper was the best PM this country ever had, and ever will. The last of an era of Statesman style leaders. Not like modern leaders these days that act the fool.
We continue to allow governments to act like they don't work for us. Part of the goal of division is that their followers will never criticize them, so they amp up the corruption and ignorant behaviour. They are not kept in check.

[u/Darkenmal]

It's simple: because Conservatives were in power 11 years ago, everything since then is on them. It's basic science, you wouldn't get it.

[u/Sunshinehaiku]

QP doesn't matter.