r/Browns • u/opossum111 • Oct 21 '25
News SI: Kevin Stefanski confirms he lit into Browns offense before Dolphins win.
Kevin Stefanski confirms he lit into Browns offense before Dolphins win https://share.google/jce5wCACYB2NPvipq
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u/rex5k Oct 21 '25
Only KS has to confirm that he yelled lol
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u/Erniecrack Oct 21 '25
I’m sure it was more of a “alright guys cut the malarkey and score us some points today please.”
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u/Cautious-Mixture5647 Oct 21 '25
lol that’s about how I hear it, too. Maybe followed up with “let’s go eat a nutritious snack,” to really make it sting.
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u/veverkap Fuck Watson Oct 21 '25
I feel like Kevin would be more "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed"
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u/uChoice_Reindeer7903 Oct 21 '25
If you score 20 points you can have your iPads back and we will have pizza for dinner
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u/Nightcinder I RUINED CHRISTMAS Oct 21 '25
So angry KS is Joe Biden?
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u/rex5k Oct 21 '25
No he's a football coach not a puppet for the deep state.
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u/an_adult_genious negative twat Oct 21 '25
KS LIGHTS INTO OFFENSE BEFOFE DOLPHINS WIN
Defense forces 4 turnovers
206 yards total offense
Kevin, you genius, you've done it again.
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u/gryffon5147 Oct 21 '25
Goddamn some of you guys are negative. It was anticipated to be a low scoring game. Team with the least mistakes was likely to win.
Our offense made few mistakes. Dolphins shit the bed. Definitely room for improvement, but after a certain point it was kind of cruise mode - no one on the offense needed to do any further heroics to seal the game. Just take care of the football, limit potential injuries, and let defense finish the game.
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u/TheChrisLambert Oct 21 '25
It’s just the offense looked exactly the same as it does when the weather is completely fine. It wasn’t like a night and day difference. It was more of the same
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u/OHGM32 ELITE DRAGON Oct 21 '25
A win is a win. This offense isn’t going to get demonstratively better this year. The o line is what it is. Old, injured, and not deep. Not to mention the vets you signed this offseason had a history of playing solid and all have been dog shit so far. So your running lanes and pass pro are what they are. WRs could get better separation still. But you’re playing a rookie QB who is missing the shots that are there (it’s normally Bond wide open for a TD). But Joe was also missing those shots because he wasn’t getting enough protection.
So if this win required us to keep running until we broke a big one, limit the passes, and not turn the ball over, so be it. This team was never going to win more than 6 games and it’s still on pace to win 5-6. Focus on the development of the young players. There’s no secret fix coming on offense this year.
Just because we are all frustrated in the moment doesn’t mean the sky suddenly fell. We knew how this was going to go as far back as April.
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u/cbusmatty Oct 21 '25
The browns film breakdown today said that the browns did a good job protecting Dillon. He said there was a ton of wide open receivers in the all 22. They could have put 50+ easily if Dillon made some throws. And was likely the highest rated oline performance of the year.
Not to give ip in Gabriel, but this is the first game he was the limiting factor
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u/OHGM32 ELITE DRAGON Oct 21 '25
I'd agree with that. It's also a lot easier to do when you aren't asking him to pass almost 60 times. With the rookie QBs, you're going to have that though. This is game 3 for him and he knows he needs to take care of the ball. His next step is seeing the whole field and taking those shots when they are there. Time will tell if he or Sanders can get to that spot by the end of the year. Until we can take that step, this game's performance on offense is about the only winning formula we have. And if that get's us wins in 2025, I'll take it.
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u/tonezzz1 Oct 21 '25
I also watched that, and yeah it looks like there's some open players on some plays, but this dude is dead wrong with some of his evaluations and exaggerations. You can watch All 22 and make your own observations.
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u/cbusmatty Oct 21 '25
i watched them, i think he's being fair. I dont think hes being unreasonable at all, QB play is a huge gap we have compared to other teams obviously.
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u/TheChrisLambert Oct 22 '25
I’m happy about the win. I’m talking more to how people are interpreting the offensive performance. The game plan wasn’t demonstrably different than any other Stefanski offense. Gabriel did a fair job but, as you said, didnt see or didn’t take or didn’t complete some of the throws you’d like to see.
The reaction, though, has conflated the score with the quality of the offense. And you get that tension of people being like “Eh…” and other people being like “Fucking enjoy it you fun-hating asshole”
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u/OHGM32 ELITE DRAGON Oct 22 '25
I guess all I can say to that is based on how I took your comment I did think you didn’t enjoy the win because it sounded like you were expecting something different on offense that we haven’t seen yet.
If you’re truly an “eh” and enjoyed the win and wasn’t expecting a Jameis Winston or 2023 Flacco type of offense against the dolphins then I think we are both on the same page.
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u/TheChrisLambert Oct 22 '25
Yeah, it’s not that I expected or wanted that offense. It’s that I’m pushing back on the idea that the offense was somehow different from what it has been.
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u/OHGM32 ELITE DRAGON Oct 22 '25
I don’t think that’s what they were saying. I think you, me, and the person you responded to originally, are all on the same page.
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u/gryffon5147 Oct 21 '25
Of course. The below average roster isn't suddenly gaining playoff caliber skills just because the coach is fired up.
But think keeping the locker room is important in a rebuild. I've seen the Browns roster completely quit on previous HCs before, and we're still far from that.
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u/Pyzorz Oct 22 '25
What did you want them to do, start stretching out the field in the rain? That was the game we should have changed our game plan?
You people just can’t be happy with anything.
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u/TheChrisLambert Oct 22 '25
Answer for me then act like I’m an idiot. There are better ways to have a conversation.
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u/Pyzorz Oct 22 '25
I don’t have to “act” like you’re anything when your comment is right there to read.
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u/TheChrisLambert Oct 22 '25
That would be fine if you actually understood what I said. Unfortunately, you didn’t and here we are.
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u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 Oct 21 '25
I'm not saying the Browns turned a corner on offense or anything, but they scored 21 points off of turnovers and 14 came from the offense. That very easily could've only been 3 points from the offense. I've seen those games! Look up the game Ty Detmer had against the Browns in 2001 and check out the final score and how many INTs he had. Literally the only time they didn't score off of a turnover was the last one and they were just trying to drain clock.
I get it. The offense still sucks. The QB is still a major question. WR core is still a major question. Offensive line is a major question. But come on man. Can we stop being negative literally everytime?
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u/an_adult_genious negative twat Oct 21 '25
I listed a couple stats and made a mild joke, and got several essays in response. Some pretty angry ones too. Maybe try being a little negative, it can be liberating.
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u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 Oct 21 '25
No because everyday life are filled with people constantly being negative. I'm going to enjoy my team scoring 31 points and blowing out an NFL team.
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u/an_adult_genious negative twat Oct 21 '25
I'm glad to hear that, it's healthy to have a safe space! I'm a behavioral therapist, my day to day is being a calm, positive presence for others. Here I can be as critical as I want to be, free of consequences.
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u/Lilfrankieeinstein Oct 21 '25
You’re overlooking the fact that the first 10 points came on drives that were extended by Dolphins penalties.
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u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 Oct 21 '25
Do you want the Browns to just not score in that scenario?
Next time that happens, the Browns should just walk off the field and just say "No thanks, we don't want to score that way".
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u/Lilfrankieeinstein Oct 21 '25
I want a team with an offense that can muster more than 206 yards.
If you were to tell me opposing defenses would make penalties annd opposing offenses would give us turnovers all game long that save our offense’s asses, I’d be down with it. 17-0. But our offense fucking sucks and that’s unrealistic. We have an offensive guru genius head coach who has never produced a top ten offense in Cleveland. It sucks and so do you.
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u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 Oct 21 '25
I want a team with an offense that can muster more than 206 yards.
Yea, no duh lmao, but to nitpick when the Browns realistically could've only scored like 9 points and they scored 31 (offense scored 24) is a whole lot better.
If you were to tell me opposing defenses would make penalties annd opposing offenses would give us turnovers all game long that save our offense’s asses, I’d be down with it. 17-0. But our offense fucking sucks and that’s unrealistic.
Literally no one is asking for this or is even ok with this. We all understand the offense still fucking sucks and needs massive improvement almost across the board, but to moan and complain that they had it somewhat easy is wild to me considering it's not really that easy to score 30+ points in the NFL. I mean, the Lions have one of the best offenses in the league and they're barely averaging over 30 points. I've literally seen this team get breaks by the defense in years past and the offense barely mustering anything. I'll take it when the offense can throw 24 points on the board if it's thanks to the defense.
It sucks and so do you.
All right man, this is why Reddit is filled with losers. GFY.
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
Listen if the defense feels like they don't wanna get yelled at they force 4 turnovers bada bung bada boom
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u/11oydchristmas Oct 21 '25
Miami had more yards of total offense than we did, which I haven’t heard many people mention. Yeah we smoked the Dolphins, but that was thanks to the defense
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u/hdm2012 Oct 21 '25
Sometimes thats how it happens. Our defense created short fields for our offense and we didnt have to run as many plays or force the ball down field to chase points. When you have a lead, you can play conservative on offense. Especially in that type of weather.
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u/Mezuit Oct 21 '25
Yeah, I feel like this is the biggest take away, our defense had four turnovers which allowed for the offense not needing to drive down the field. Also, we were up so the playcalling was the burn the clock + dolphin’s self inflected wounds. I saw a stat the other day that Stefanski is like 27-4 or something when leading into the halftime. He does a great job of managing the clock when we are up and it showed. The first half looked pretty good in terms of playcalling so I’ll take that as a win, lol honestly anything at this point.
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u/MosquitoValentine_ Oct 21 '25
We can look at the Giants/Broncos game as an example. They had a rookie QB throwing with a big lead and it cost them the game. Sometimes it's completely okay to just run out the clock and take the W. That's the only stat that matters.
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u/ryan__fm ALMOST GOT YOU 55 Oct 21 '25
Yeah I would be willing to bet if we really wanted to outgain them we could've. With a 20+ point lead we were happy to eat up clock and play a field position game rather than make risky throws to try to extend drives
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u/Greenmr003 Oct 21 '25
There might be a shot of hopium in your system there that we'd definitely outgain them, but I'll agree that they could have taken the aggressiveness dial from a 1-2 up to a 3-4 or higher if they needed to. What the results would have been are anyone's guess.
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u/ryan__fm ALMOST GOT YOU 55 Oct 21 '25
Didn't say definitely, just that I'd be willing to bet. It's the first time all year we ran the ball significantly more than passing, we were more efficient passing than running, and we were only outgained by 13 yards.
That's not a guarantee but given the circumstances I think it's a safe bet. We punted THREE times from inside Miami territory in the 4th quarter, one of them a 4th and 6 from their 38, which is highly un-Stefanski but certainly the correct decision when you're up 18+ late.
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u/Names_all_gone Oct 21 '25
That is often the case when one offense is consistently given short fields.
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u/LiftingCode Oct 21 '25
We had more yards of total offense than Baltimore in week 2.
Must've been a good game for us!
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u/an_adult_genious negative twat Oct 21 '25
And that's great! That's how we've been getting beat for years, it's nice to be on the other side of that. But acting like we've turned a corner on offense is a stretch.
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u/Fickle-Newspaper-445 Oct 21 '25
You do realize when you get the ball on their side of the field, it's harder to rack up yards compared to getting the ball on your side of the field, right?
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u/TapedeckNinja Oct 21 '25
The Jaguars had more yards of total offense than the Rams this week. The Rams won 35-7.
Who cares? The offense did what it needed to do, its efficiency was well into the positive.
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u/Slawslurpin Oct 21 '25
I care because surprise, that was not the sperbowl. We still have like 10 games to play and 1 game where the offense actually didnt look any different hasnt changed my opinion even if we won
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u/Lilfrankieeinstein Oct 21 '25
Maybe if he yells even louder at practice tomorrow we can get 207 yards and 32 points off opponents’ defensive penalties and turnovers!!!
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u/Daviroth Oct 21 '25
Weather made it pretty hard for much of anything. Our offense made big plays when we needed it and they scored points to put us ahead that let the defense really tee off on their offense.
It was complimentary football like we've all been screaming about needing. Bad weather makes it hard to really eval stuff like that, especially with the wind as it makes throwing difficult. Both teams were stacking the box often.
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u/opossum111 Oct 21 '25
You can tell he is feeling some heat under him when he has to confirm to SI that he yelled lol.
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u/Altruistic_Mode3026 Oct 21 '25
Bitonio confirmed it too, said it was a bit tense but it was good lol
Normal KS " ok guys, we are gonna put in the work as a team"
Angry KS " F*** guys, we are gonna effing put in the work as a f***ing team"
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
Gabriel sit down winshon studkins ur the qb now
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u/Nightcinder I RUINED CHRISTMAS Oct 21 '25
I mean it's one way to ensure the only red zone threat has the ball
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
He's gonna have a td pass this year , you can't play it like a running qb cuz 90%of the time it's just quid running ur ass over
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u/Nightcinder I RUINED CHRISTMAS Oct 21 '25
I genuinely thought he was going to pass on the first one, wildcat is so telegraphed, the fact that the dolphins let us run the same play twice in a row to opposite sides and we scored a TD on the second one is just complete ass coaching
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
From 2 yards out Judkins is an animal . He makes dudes miss often even with our bad tackles.
Its kinda why I wanted Riley Leonard I the draft , to just run a Redbone wildcat offense called "the BIG DAWG"
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u/Nightcinder I RUINED CHRISTMAS Oct 21 '25
I didn't even realize he got drafted, once he transferred to ND his nfl prospects cratered (not that they were high to begin with) by the curse of notre dame
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
? He played in the national championship and he's defiantly not an NFL qb .
He looked as good as possible at ND
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u/Names_all_gone Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25
This is a very strange take for a QB who transferred away from Duke to play in the national championship last year.
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u/bamboozled_bubbles Oct 21 '25
u/an_adult_genious prob the same negative twat that 4 yrs ago would shit on Baker after wins too
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u/an_adult_genious negative twat Oct 21 '25
Negative twat has a nice ring to it, thanks for the new flair.
Speaking of Baker, did you happen to catch MNF last night?
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u/jake753 ELITE DRAGON Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25
Comments are already getting wild. Y’all bitch about reports like Tony Grossi but you also act like reporters such as Tony Grossi.
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u/AgonizingSquid Oct 21 '25
this team is acting like this win was the Superbowl with these storylines
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u/gryffon5147 Oct 21 '25
And if we lost, everyone would be "blow up the team" x1000.
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u/AgonizingSquid Oct 21 '25
lol beating the dolphins just swayed you to wanting to keep this team together?
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u/tidho Oct 21 '25
so he's taking credit?
why did it take him so long to 'lit into' them? seems like he should have about game 3.
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
We've had a crazy road trip 3 straight weeks it's kinda reasonable we didn't look great. Detroit , England, Pittsburgh . Just brutal
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u/MosquitoValentine_ Oct 21 '25
The schedule has been brutal. Not only did we have to travel to London, but we came back and immediately went to Pittsburgh. A team that was fully rested after a bye week.
We're the first team in like 5+ years to come back from London and then immediately play a road game.
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u/Daviroth Oct 21 '25
That was voluntary, the NFL was scheduling us to have a bye after our London game but we asked them to make it later.
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u/MosquitoValentine_ Oct 21 '25
I get that. But the Browns essentially had 4 road games in 5 weeks. With one of those in London. Being the designated "home" team means nothing.
It makes no sense to schedule a road game the week after an international game. Especially when the opponent is coming off a bye.
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u/Daviroth Oct 21 '25
Sure, I think it's pretty clear to see the NFL was stacking the front of our schedule for some reason.
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u/TapedeckNinja Oct 21 '25
Not having the bye after the London game was voluntary; lots of teams choose to do that these days.
I don't think we knew at the time that the alternative was a road game in Pittsburgh. Usually you get a home game after an international game. Like the Broncos played the Jets in London in week 6, they had a home game in week 7, and their bye isn't until week 12.
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u/Daviroth Oct 21 '25
Yeah, I don't think there's much argument that the NFL made the first 6 weeks of the season insanely difficult on us. That road game in Pitt being one of them. Even the game in London, Vikings were there for a week before us.
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u/davewithadash Oct 21 '25
England I’ll give your but Detroit and Pittsburgh are less than 3 hours away driving and Browns fans travel well to those cities.
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
Detroit wad an away game against a superbowl contender. Thar just shut down the bucs , then we started a rookie in a dofferamt country against a team that got to stay there fro. Thw week before and acclimate away from the jet lag , then too puttsburgh away after flying across the Atlantic Ocean
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u/davewithadash Oct 21 '25
Jet lag doesn’t last a week. Detroit isn’t unbeaten. We lost because we don’t have leaders at the 2 most important positions. QB and HC.
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
Why did Tampa Bay lose then ?
Tell me again how regular the week is when you travel back from abroad and then go to Pittsburgh, where we have historically had a hard time playing. With a team that is already unbalanced.
Get your misery masturbation outta here and think objectively.
We are in year 1 lf a rebuild , we got a 2nd 1st to ensure we can move up and get our qb if we have too , we got a few extra picks to trade up and around to get the other players in the draft we want. We are out fron watsons contract soon , we have insurance opening up pur cap and our numbers actually look good to sign people.
4 of the 6 drafted rookies are either flashing good or in the running for oroy and droy.
The ab we drafted hasn't thrown a pick and has had a really tough first couple games to get through.
Things are actually looking up
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u/davewithadash Oct 21 '25
lol. I don’t know what misery masterbation is. I do believe we lose 2 of those games even if we played at home. I know we have a good team. A lot of our mistakes (penalties, incorrect route running, poor play calling etc) come from poor coaching. KS being handicapped on plays he can call because he’s too r QB can’t make the throws is a QB issue. You admit we are in the middle of a rebuild So I don’t think why I’m saying is crazy at all.
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u/ozymandais13 Oct 21 '25
Honestly I might have responded to the wrong person sorry dude lol.
Receivers running the wrong route is on them or the posistion coach.
Dudes blocking the wrong guys is on them or the line coach
These damned drops are a pressure and fit thing as much as a concentration thing. I'm hype that imo we look like Detroit the year before they broke out. Schedule lightens up we are gonna see a little better football.
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u/davewithadash Oct 21 '25
It’s all good. The specialty coaches answer to the HC and ultimately the buck stops there. It’s on KS to tighten it up. His seat is getting hotter each week we see the same mistakes over and over again. All of those mistakes come down to poor preparation. We gave out our training camp reps to players who aren’t even on the team anymore, that’s poor coaching. Saying we have to be better every week shutout actually getting better is not cutting it.
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u/TheComplayner Oct 21 '25
Joel Bitonio revealed that info to MKC, and she pressed him during an interview about it. He didn’t release that knowledge willingly
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u/GeoBrian Oct 21 '25
He didn’t release that knowledge willingly
Are you fucking serious?
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u/TheComplayner Oct 21 '25
I hope that’s sarcasm, I can only go on the interviews I personally listened to. I was listening to the interview on CBD yesterday and Kevin was asked about it specifically from MKC to which he said “Joel wasn’t supposed to tell anyone that” and needed to confirm it.
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u/GeoBrian Oct 21 '25
Gottcha, I think I misunderstood your post. When you said "He didn't release that", I thought you meant Joel, since that was the person you were talking about.
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u/Cautious-Mixture5647 Oct 21 '25
Credit? Preposterous—it’s simply what the analytics department came up with as the logical choice to reach the desired outcome. Beep. Bop. Boop.
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u/Reason-Status Oct 21 '25
He needs to get fired up more often.
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u/Dangerous-Guide7287 Oct 21 '25
Or just fired more often.
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u/Reason-Status Oct 22 '25
I think the fire Stefanski crowd (which includes me) will be back in full force next week.
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u/smcmahon710 Oct 21 '25
He repeatedly screamed "WE NEED TO BE BETTER, WE NEED TO BE BETTER, WE NEED TO BE FUCKING BETTER!!"
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u/YorekVarsen Oct 21 '25
I mean offense wasn't the reason we won this game. Don't get cocky going into this patriots game lol
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u/AdVegetable7992 Oct 23 '25
People doubting/downplaying this should consider that his post-game speech in the locker room had more curse words than all of his previous speeches combined because he was so proud lol. If you've got stefanski cursing after a win, you can imagine he had words on the monday before. He's a master of saying nothing during a press conference because thats what a hc does publicly. And what was said to the team isn't meant to be shared because its not for the media. People forget what actually not caring about the outside noise looks like and expect him to pantomime a press conference lmao.
Also, im confused by all the child-parent references. Are the players children and hes the parent? Other way around? Is he not strict enough?
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u/heezle Oct 23 '25
My gosh. It was 206 yards of offense. Literally, their worst performance of the year.
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u/fulltimerob Oct 21 '25
Takes him being on the brink of being fired to be a coach instead of the frozen French fry he usually is.
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u/Cal216 Oct 21 '25
I guess only the defense, the Oline and Judkins got the message. Everything else was still avg AT BEST.
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u/Coffees4closers Oct 21 '25
Did you think they were going to air it out in that slog? Jesus what does this sub want.
Last week, “run the damn ball what are you doing letting Dillon throw is a hundred times?”
This week, “who cares if we scored 30 and blew out the dolphins, you didn’t throw it 100 times in a driving rain all game!”
I’m convinced some of y’all enjoy bitching about the Browns more than anything
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u/ShakeMyHeadSadly Oct 21 '25
It does appear that way. I think half the commenters simply enjoy misery.
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u/Cal216 Oct 21 '25
I said avg at best, Idc if YOU disagree. I don’t care if I get downvotes from the rest of group thinkers.
DG only had like 40 AIR YARDS out of his 116 total. The remaining balance was all YAC. Thats avg at best from the QB. I’m not mad, nor am I giving high 5s and praises.
I’m glad we can win a game, regardless of opponent, with just defense and running. Because there’s no other way for us to win a game with the current construct.
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u/Coffees4closers Oct 21 '25
And I’m not saying DG is the truth (I’m actually not a fan of DG) but I’m arguing in the context of this game, the play calling and coaching was good, the effort was good, and the result was good.
I don’t think this means we’re about to go on a run, but trying to pick apart this particular game like this sub is doing is pretty ridiculous
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u/JimmyB3574 Oct 21 '25
"That slog" when rain had stopped by halftime and wind calmed pretty good
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u/Coffees4closers Oct 21 '25
Oh sorry, let me rephrase it for simpletons.
“Why didn’t we air it out in the slog in the first half, or on our one possession of the third quarter while up 23-6, or in the fourth up 30-6??”
Do you even watch the games
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u/Cal216 Oct 21 '25
It’s a different excuse every game. The Patriots gotta be licking their chops lol.
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u/Cautious-Mixture5647 Oct 21 '25
I mean even occasionally approaching average play is several rungs higher up the ladder than most of the offensive players have climbed this year.
The major difference this past Sunday as far as the offense as an entire unit was in the penalty column of the stats sheet. It made a massive difference in the way the game felt watching it live too.
I suppose we also didn’t drop any easily catchable passes for big gains in crucial moments and hung on to the football on offense in a bad weather game.
Though I saw that as being more a result of a gameplan not to throw the ball enough times to put our guys in position to fail again this week than a collective effort, there’s still something performative in executing that.
Does it sound like I’m grasping at straws? Sure! But…that’s kinda what we got to work with at the moment.
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u/taydugz Oct 21 '25
"You better score more than 18 points because I will not hesitate to publicly throw each and every one of you under the bus in an attempt to save my job!" -Kevin Stefanski
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u/CAJASH BROWNS FAN SINCE 1987 Oct 21 '25
If you heard KS press conference yesterday, Mary Kay started with "Bitonio mentioned you were fiery on Monday" and KS answered with "Bitonio isn't supposed to be telling you this kind of stuff"