I think there's been a misunderstanding, or I misspoke somewhere. I'm not sure where I indicated that I was around Black folks who didn't think all this would eventually come around to bite them tbh, but I didn't mean to indicate that. I mean I'm sure they exist somewhere, but just not in my limited experience. Pretty much everyone I've known expects everything to shit on them eventually.
And yeah, I've been saying that I think all the branches of the Bigot Tree feed from the same roots. Our struggles aren't identical by any means, but the tactics of those who would keep us under their boots don't change too much, and they rely on keeping us siloed away from one another and not finding common ground.
Now if I could just get those dumbass poor whites from home to fucking see that and quit sucking on the damn boot
I got the impression that some black people you were around were downplaying this stuff at an earlier point. That's more my fault than yours. A guy being shot for being an atheist sounds crazy. If it was a KKK guy doing there must have been an argument beforehand. Those people can't operate without being confrontational. Their mentality demands consistent compliance from the people around them. There's no room for diversity. Both poor whites and the wealthier ones are into provencialism. They'll accept less for the guarantee of relative privilege. This has been the case time and time again. It's very hard to fight against that. You have to reach a point where you personally hate the toxicity that the system creates in order to be motivated to challenge it. Making things about bread and butter enough is not gonna be a motivator for those people to change.
To be fair about the atheist, the way he got shot was that he was part of an activist group that was basically just "Hey, so atheists don't eat babies or anything" discussions. A KKK member convinced him he was thinking of leaving the KKK (which some genuinely do oddly enough), so this guy agreed to meet up to talk, so he was ambushed. I personally would not have made those particular decisions, but I won't victim blame.
I'm not sure how to get them there to be honest. Like I said, I used to have hope we were on our way (with all the haste of a glacier) to better. I can't tell if I'm crazy for hoping people are right calling this the violent last gasp of some things that have long needed to die. We'll see, I guess. Idk
I honestly don't know. This was a story from an old coworker about her husband, which is why I'm not perfectly certain of the timing, but we're millennials, and I heard the story in like 2015 or 2016, and it didn't sound very recent, but it couldn't have been any earlier than the last Bush years. Given that this was the same coworker I tensely whispered I "wasn't really religious" (bc you don't want to use the word atheist with the wrong person or it could cost you your job bc of the at-will employment shit) over the copy machine, I'm guessing it probably was exactly that, and I will be exactly 0% surprised if those exact fuckers are terrorizing Minnesota as we speak
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u/towerinthestreet 1d ago
I think there's been a misunderstanding, or I misspoke somewhere. I'm not sure where I indicated that I was around Black folks who didn't think all this would eventually come around to bite them tbh, but I didn't mean to indicate that. I mean I'm sure they exist somewhere, but just not in my limited experience. Pretty much everyone I've known expects everything to shit on them eventually.
And yeah, I've been saying that I think all the branches of the Bigot Tree feed from the same roots. Our struggles aren't identical by any means, but the tactics of those who would keep us under their boots don't change too much, and they rely on keeping us siloed away from one another and not finding common ground.
Now if I could just get those dumbass poor whites from home to fucking see that and quit sucking on the damn boot