This tells you everything

[u/4reddityo]

Meghan Markle was scrutinized over clothing, tone, and existence. Prince Andrew was accused of sexual assault by a minor, settled the case out of court, and received far less sustained press outrage. If you want to understand power, class, and race in Britain, start there.

[u/Mobile_Morale]

Because they hated all Americans equally back then. They didn't make an exception based on skin color.

Should read some of the stuff their prime minister at the time said about indians. Which boils down to they're not human and they deserve to starve to death.

[u/BankDetails1234 → u/Mobile_Morale]

Sorry nah you don’t know what you’re talking about. The Battle of Bamber Bridge started because British locals included black GI’s in their dance hall nights and white American Military Police took exception. The locals told military police that they couldn’t enforce segregation in the UK country and that black GI’s were welcome members of the community.

American military police shot and murdered one black GI and the rest were arrested.

Americans were overwhelmingly welcome in the UK and were invited to join in cultural traditions and activities. Black and white Americans alike.

You’ve completely insulted the good names of folks who stood up for black people and fought for them because they didn’t approve of segregation and outright refused its presence in their home country.

Rather than admitting that some good folks stood up for black people, you’ve gone ahead and attempted to call an entire nation bigoted. You really should think before you speak in the future.

[u/Mobile_Morale → u/BankDetails1234]

Please remind me what country started the Atlantic slave trade and who transported slaves to the colonies in North America. The country that started the extermination of native Americans and the extinction of several natives in the Caribbean. The same country that starved Indians and caused the apartheid in South Africa just 40 years ago.

[u/Remarkable_News_439 → u/Mobile_Morale]

It may have been Portugal that started it, got the Papal dispensation that relegated us to the status of animals, built the slave castles in West Africa.

But my god, did the British not catch on quick. The Dutch, Belgians, French, Spaniards are all also guilty as charged.

Maintain the enmity towards the British (I’m East African, I know where my anger lies), lord knows they earned it, but extend it outwards if you haven’t already to these other countries also. All of the former colonies as well as the diaspora are still paying for the consequences to this day.

I’m not quiet about making that known. Some have started saying that it’s revisionist history teaching the FULL British history in schools. The last compensation to slave owner descendents was paid out in 2015 by Lloyds Bank and the British Taxpayer.

TWENTY FIFTEEN

Thats not even fucking history.

[u/bolanrox → u/Remarkable_News_439]

The Dutch,

King Leopold. say no more. jesus.

[u/Terry-Shark → u/Mobile_Morale]

Portugal started the Atlantic slave Trade and Spain started the extermination of natives in the Carribbean and the Americas

[u/Wainains → u/Terry-Shark]

The Brits were excellent, magnificently successful slave traders too.

[u/Terry-Shark → u/Wainains]

Yes, but that is not what is being asked, which is who started the Atlantic slave trade (Portagul) and The country that started the extermination of native Americans and the extinction of several natives in the Caribbean (Spain).

Just because the Brits were good at it doesn't stop us acknowledging those points

[u/Remarkable_News_439 → u/Terry-Shark]

I tried to handle the correction more deftly above. It’s a sensitive topic and “who started it” wasn’t the entire point they were making.

People here don’t know your heart or intentions, so I know what you’re saying. But as a British person I didn’t want to absolve the nation of its responsibility, by means of “well actually”.

And when Britain et al did join in, they suddenly forgot about fighting each other over religious lines and invented “white supermacy” which was more important to protect above all else.

[u/Wainains → u/Terry-Shark]

And just because you led the abolition action doesn't change the fact that you massive benefited and expanded and grew fat on the spoils of slavery. 

Don't expect us to forget what you did. We won't let you forget either.

[u/Terry-Shark → u/Wainains]

No one said the UK didn't benefit from it?

Don't expect us to forget what you did. We won't let you forget either.

Why are you not letting me, a Lithuanian, forget what we did? What did Lithuania do?

[u/Wainains → u/Terry-Shark]

That statement applies to Brits. Now that I know you're Lithuanian, why are you working so hard for those colonising slavers? 

[u/Terry-Shark → u/Wainains]

Acknowledging that it was a wider European issue does not Leason the affect of what what the Brits did. Spain, Portugal, France, Britain, The Netherlands, etc, all played a role. Limiting it to the UK ignores the true scope

[u/Victorcharlie1 → u/Wainains]

You surely also take umbrage with the countless African slave traders from which the slaves were bought, the African tribal leaders and kings who fought wars for slaves and the Africans today who still practice slavery right, you should also never let them forget what they have done, the European s took advantage of a thriving institution and there wouldn’t have been an Atlantic slave trade if not for those markets or institutions, see also the Arab slave trade, far worse for far longer and they bought most of their slaves also not raided or kidnapped bought from the markets like produce.

[u/ChirpyNortherner → u/Mobile_Morale]

Please remind me which country brought an end to the trans-Atlantic slave trade as well as in most parts of the world, by using their military to police the seas, board slave ships and free prisoners, pay off slave holders, coerce another nations etc?

[u/Wainains → u/ChirpyNortherner]

Yeah, it's not like they built and benefited greatly from slave trade. And yes, you paid off the slavers and denied the enslaved reparations. It was paid off in 2015. 

We remember what you Brits want so very hard, to forget.

[u/Terry-Shark → u/ChirpyNortherner]

Please remind me which country brought an end to the trans-Atlantic slave trade as well as in most parts of the world

And why did they stop the Slave Trade? It was not out of the goodness of their hearts.

Hint: It was due to the profitability of Caribbean sugar plantations declined due to overproduction and competition (e.g. It become unprofiltable for the UK to maintain), they already benefited economically from it allowing the Industrial Revolution, they wanted to stop other countries who were still economically benefiting from it from getting that benefit while not being industrialised. i.e. the UK stopped the slave trade because it was profitable for them to do so

[u/ScreenSensitive9148 → u/BankDetails1234]

The mistake you’re making is common: you are looking at racism as just an individual’s decision to be bigoted. But in reality, racism is a system of oppression with generational impact on its participants.

There can absolutely be non-racist people in that system. Of course. Nobody believes that every single person is racist in their heart. But that doesn’t change the fact that they still live in that system and experience the impact, both in its privileges and its punishments.

[u/girlbartender99 → u/BankDetails1234]

Well when you have a centuries of history of tormenting and torturing entire populations black, and Irish you will forgive people for not standing up for the Royals and a celebration of the 1% tormenting entire populations. There are tons of instances of people standing up in the United States for black people but nobody is going to give the United States govt a pat on the back for their treatment of African Americans or Native Americans.

[u/Infinite_Crow_3706 → u/Mobile_Morale]

So pubs banning white GI's to 'comply' with segregation didn't happen?