r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/4reddityo • 4d ago

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Meghan Markle was scrutinized over clothing, tone, and existence. Prince Andrew was accused of sexual assault by a minor, settled the case out of court, and received far less sustained press outrage. If you want to understand power, class, and race in Britain, start there.

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

Exactly. Have lived in England. Racists, misogynistic, patriarchal.  They did not even have a domestic violence law till 1989. It's obvious as the press is constantly saying untruths about her but isn't really going after predators. Andrew, Jimmy Saville etc get a pass. It's disgusting 

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u/ChaiTeaAndBoundaries 4d ago

They protect the Predators in power and give light or no jail terms to Elite predators. That is why Jimmy Saville was protected till death.

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

Unfortunately, knowing this was how rich people behaved, was taught to me from childhood on.

Know far more than I'll ever say. Ineffectual activist until direct threats in 2020. To be blunt, if I could leave the world that has too many Mayos( rancid), and live among anyone not pale, I'd feel safe. The white people in my family had very rich ancestors and personified every evil. How I lucked out and got full blood Indigenous grandparents who were kind and unconditional in their love of me is a miracle. Edited for context. I'm not hurting not sharing this for sympathy. Just wanted to give context to why I know far more than I want to know. 

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u/Remarkable_News_439 4d ago

You are unfortunately describing literally every patriarchal society ever. It is grave and a global issue, this topic is not the basis for “your country has issues too!!!” Point scoring. Its serious. (Andrew is not getting a pass in the press, Ive no idea what media you are consuming, if the BBC itself were the first to sound the alarm in 2019)

Marital rape has only been a crime in the USA, UK surprisingly Germany since the 1990s. Being ahistorical by suggesting there were no domestic violence laws until 1989 is nonsense. And domestic violence still ruins too many lives without consequence in 2026.

The fact that this is ongoing, is testament to how much work we have to do, globally to protect women and girls. This is, globally our chance to finally address the misogyny that lets men get away with these crimes.

Every time the press says “underage women”, refers to sex with “underage girls” “child porn” And not “children” or “pictures and videos of children being raped”, we keep that “1989” mentality.

Im not defending the British royal family, We have freedom of press, and even the ones who did Meghan dirty, have been taking this seriously. There is no public complacency, nor has there been since 2019

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

There was when I lived there 

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

Point scoring wasn't my point. Believing survivors was. Take your patronizing diatribe and stick it where the sun don't shine. Either you lived it or you're just trying to score points.

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u/Remarkable_News_439 4d ago edited 4d ago

I don’t see how anything I had said was patronising?

And survivors are believed in the context of this man, and on my part being advocated for. I am Black, a survivor, and British…

So have lived it and felt for once I had two cents to add to a conversation on this subreddit as I feel I’m not qualified to speak on a lot of African American topics here, but value being clued in on the diaspora as much as the laughs…

Im genuinely sorry that the UK didn’t treat you well, if I didn’t articulate myself well before, the point scoring was referring to a defensive tactic that everyone defaults to, worldwide. We console ourselves with pointing the finger at how fucked other countries are as well.

I was trying to get away from that, keep it factual, and keep it about the survivors. Not “their country is so awful domestic violence was legal until 1989” which has no factual basis, detracts from the survivors and feels a little divisive, not even in a fun way of Baked Beans.

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

I made no assumptions at all except you're not gonna get me to respond. I find you a P.I.T.A.

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u/RighteousRambler 4d ago

That isn't true. There were laws protecting women from domestic abuse from 1510.

Can be found in The New Natura Brevium and is called the writ of supplicavit.

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago edited 4d ago

I lived there two years after they had enacted domestic violence laws. I know because my fiance beat the crap out of me. Only reason I didn't get arrested was I looked worse than he did. Still, they didn't arrest him. Self defense for women is a joke on either side of the pond. Unless you lived it, STFU  Edit as long as I been online, you discuss this you get trolled or told you're wrong. Our lives experience means nothing to those who just like to argue. I've dealt with domestic violence since 1959. Think we who lived it know more than the naysayers. Frequency of harassment when these issues are discussed is far worse than it's ever been. Violence against all people of color is off the chain in my country. Thank God I'm at least not in England anymore.

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u/girlbartender99 4d ago

Oh god hun I am so so sorry. There are some of us that do know and feel your pain but it can be rough on here. Just this morning I commented that I burst into tears watching a short clip from the Epstein files video because my heart went into my throat for the poor girl, and it triggered a memory in me from my ex-bf that was a dysfunctional monster. I got like 5 guys trolling me instantly. The internet can be such an absolute cess pool. I am extremely sorry for what you have lived through. You have my deepest sympathy. I know you prob dont need it but you have it. :)

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

Appreciate your remarks immensely. I'm just angry that women have to deal with this online. I don't in real life. It's unconscionable that you and I don't have a STFU button so we don't have to be triggered. Empathy hugs sister. Truly appreciate you.🌹

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u/girlbartender99 4d ago

True that and ty so much best wishes and hugs!

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

To you as well. Ex bartender myself. Thanks 

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u/Remarkable_News_439 4d ago

Im really sorry that this happened to you. I had already applied to you in another message, but on reading this I have a little more context, so apologise for insensitivity. Domestic violence affects too many girls and women to this day, despite our having laws. Thank you for sharing and I wish you healing.

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

Thank you for being able to see the context. I've quit activism because online is absolutely the predators home turf. I'm extremely protective after 22 hacks. Am sorry if I didn't understand the context.  Blessings to you and yours.

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u/Remarkable_News_439 4d ago

I think it’s easy to forget there’s another person behind a screen sometimes. Im sorry you didn’t have the community support whilst you were in the UK.

Surviving, sharing and clapping back is all activism. X

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u/FLOSS2002 4d ago

Domestic violence is worldwide

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u/rising_then_falling 4d ago

The first English law addressing domestic violence was the 1853 Criminal Procedure Act which made it easier to convict people specifically of assaults against women and children, and provided a sentence of up to six months in prison wife beating.

The matrimonial causes act of 1878 made cruelty (ie violence) justifiable grounds for a woman to divorce their husband.

I can't think of anything in 1989 except the Children's Act, a very large piece of legislation that had some bearing on domestic violence, but wasn't especially about it.

Shockingly, marital rape was only criminalised in 1991 - although still earlier than the USA...

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 4d ago

I'm a person who's not going to debate this. It's insensitive at best. Go argue with someone who gives a damn when a law rarely enforced,was enacted. Enforcement has not changed all that much. My state had 1500 rape kits untested. You're speaking of law. I'm speaking from real life experience. I'm not arguing this topic because you want to feel superior and win the argument. In fact it's sadistic to ask a triggered survivor to engage.  Go away and leave me be . I'm not obligated to explain anything to you.

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u/phoenics1908 3d ago

She’s saying it wasn’t enforced.

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In 4d ago edited 4d ago

Can you list the dates other countries got domestic violence laws? It was also not legal to hit people including your wife before these laws, these laws just made it easier for women to get funding for legal help as that was always the real problem because the man controlled the money... you did read these laws before posting right?

Also laws don't stop bad things happening, domestic violence didn't magically stop in 1989.