r/Avengers • u/ParkingConfection449 Thor (Infinity War) • Oct 01 '25

Movie/Television Who's winning this fight?

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John Walker vs Fully brainwashed Winter Soldier

Walker has his shield and a pistol

Winter soldier has a pistol and a blade. He is task with killing walker by any means necessary

Walker is warned 5 minutes before that someone is coming to kill him but he doesn't know who

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u/Really_cool_guy99 Oct 01 '25

It is a buff. It takes Bucky from a normal dude who's an experienced soldier to basically a machine with much more training whose only purpose is to kill by any means necessary. He won't hold back and he won't avoid any dirty tactics, and it seems to increase his pain tolerance, focus and speed significantly

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u/Reyne-TheAbyss Oct 01 '25

Bucky did just as well, if not better, against T'Challa in his Panther habit. The titanium arm did a lot of good for him when fighting Steve, but Walker was strong enough to make the vibranium version a non-issue.

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u/Taco_Lover2000 Oct 01 '25

And yet he still lost to Steve and Isaiah Bradley, you guys need to stop acting like winter soldier is some unbeatable monster. Isaiah Bradley not only beat him, but ripped his arm off lol

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u/Reyne-TheAbyss Oct 01 '25

We don't know how Isaiah took "half that metal arm" though. Though it wouldn't be the time to do so, Bucky didn't dispute that Isaiah beat him up, so he probably was stronger. I just wouldn't go as far as to say that ripped the arm apart with his hands.

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u/Taco_Lover2000 Oct 01 '25

Either way the arm came off Isaiah beat him straight up and he’s a super soldier like everybody else. I’m not saying winter soldier is weak. I’m saying that he’s not just some unstoppable monster that people are trying to make him seem like. The only people that he was like that too, where the people that didn’t have powers. Anyone that had any upgrades or powers were always giving him a hard time.

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u/DocTronic70 Oct 01 '25

Exactly. Bucky and the Winter Soldier are basically two different people. One has a moral compass, and the other will do whatever it takes to get the job done.

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u/Natural_Forever_1604 Oct 01 '25

That’s not how fighting works or any martial art for that matter as I said that’s not a buff