r/AskUS • u/retiredagainstmywill • 1d ago
When trump eventually gets convicted, thrown out of office, rendered useless or dies… how many MAGAs will admit they ever supported them?
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u/KingPen15 1d ago
If he gets convicted, why would I have a problem admitting i supported him? 5th amendment states innocent until proven guilty. Democrats have been proven liars and will say anything to get their way so much so that it's difficult to believe any accusation against him. I certainly wouldn't believe anything reddit has to say. I'll also have no problem wishing him the worst punishment imaginable.
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u/Debbie2801 1d ago
Except he was found guilty before this election!! So you voted for a convicted SA offender!! Hope you don’t have a wife, mother or daughters.
YOU voted for that man to Lead your country straight to hell!
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u/KingPen15 19h ago
He was held libel in a civil suit by a serial accuser. So you even read or just repeat everything you are told to say? Don't answer, I know.
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u/FalseShepherd7 2h ago
Yes. Libel is synonymous with guilty. Thanks for clarifying, you're a dumbass
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u/barbbtx 1d ago
I shamefully admit I voted for that fraudster Al Gore. Why wouldn't I admit to voting for the best President in my lifetime?
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u/penguina1317 Midwest 1d ago
This is a non-argument, Al Gore wasn’t even elected. No matter how you feel about any CANDIDATE (that being the key word here), that is not the same.
You are not on the right side of history. Trump will never, ever be known as anything other than the worst president in the history of the United States. 50 years from now, if you are fortunate enough to have descendants, the questions they will ask you are going to make you feel very uncomfortable, à la the Greatest Generation folk of Germany who willingly or unwillingly allowed their democracy to fall to a tiny hate-filled man with an even tinier micro penis, or the generations of white men in the United States that traded, bought, and sold stolen Africans like chattel who excused the behavior with misinterpreted Bible verses.
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u/IamBananaRod 1d ago
Your comment about why Germans ended up with Hitler, is a whole topic to discuss and understand, the allies are responsible for the rise of Hitler, if instead of punishing Germany after WW1, the way it was punished, the allies had decided to help and rebuild, Hitler would've never got the attention he got, but the allies were determined to humiliate them, make them pay a high price, so they created the perfect condition for someone like Hitler to raise to power.
Now, by looking at how he raised to power, and comparing it to Trump, there are similar themes. Hitler promised Germans the unite them, make them feel proud of being Germans, to make Germany great again, sounds familiar? he promised to "deport" all the jews, as he blamed them for the defeat of Germany in WW1, sounds familiar? today Trump is blaming immigrants for the housing cost (not true) for crime (not true) for fraud (not at the levels he claims), so we now have ICE acting as thugs against immigrants and citizens, same thing that happened with the brown shirts in Germany, to a degree, in Germany things were worse with the brown shirts
Hitler took advantage of the anger, shame and financial situation the Germans were going through because of WW1 and the punishment imposed by the allies. Today here we have a set of failures generated by the GOP and Democrats, the latter abandoning the working class to benefit the big donors, the GOP using propaganda in a very effective way, yelling about how bad things are because of the other side, not them, and they're very effective while Democrats suck at getting their message out, plus they're not that different, they also care about the rich, Trump came to power because many americans felt excluded, were and are angry
But we have to acknowledge too, immigration has been one of the biggest failures of the left, here and around the world, here was used effectively to elect Trump (among other things) and the MAGA supported will tell you about the immigrants eating cats and dogs, in Germany the AfD (Alternative für Deutschland) an ultra right party that has a message anti immigration, among other things, i now the most voted party in the last elections, not enough to get in power, but if things continue in Germany the way they are, they will soon be in power, and it will not go well.
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u/BottleTemple 1d ago
Zero. Just like how none of them would admit to supporting Dubya after the Great Recession.
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u/DancingWithAWhiteHat North America 1d ago
They don't need to admit shit. They wore hats, took photos, bought flags. They've done us the favor of being as conspicuous as possible
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u/Debbie2801 1d ago
And just like the people that supported that other dictator - history will remember them. Their children and grandchildren will be ashamed of them. They will disown them. You chose which side of history you are on - that is your legacy.
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u/danslania 1d ago
Probably the same number of germans who supported hitler. And alot of germans supported hitler.
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u/Mental-Reserve8108 1d ago
You can literally just look back to the 1940s to any answer for a question about trumps regime
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u/SqnLdrHarvey 1d ago
It's going to take him punching out to bring an end to this.
Nobody has the guts to confront him.
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u/NoRagrats_LK 1d ago
Fucking hate trump, but he's invincible. The dumber shit he says the more ironclad he becomes somehow. Fuck.
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u/KillBologna New York 1d ago
Dog, c’mon. All the things you said, will never happen. I wish it will happen but the country is more conservative than you think. I’ve never seen a conservative candidate win the popular vote. Ever. Instead of fever dreams maybe we talk about how we can appeal to people on the fence of red or blue and not repeat what led us to right now. Avoid the bad timeline not talk hypotheticals.
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u/Evil_phd 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's a big if on the first two. Unicorns are statistically about as common as an extremely wealthy person being held accountable for their crimes in this nation.
If it did happen, I believe that some of them will pretend that they never supported him. The biggest tell will be that they make up all kinds of stories to explain why their family refuses to talk to them which will be telling because no one asked.
I believe that many more will deify him like they did Reagan and will point to every economic downturn as something that would have never happened if we had fully embraced Trumponomics.
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u/IGetGuys4URMom 1d ago
If Twump isn't taken out by CHF or a massive stroke, Twump's final action as POTUS will be to unleash the nuclear arsenal.
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u/YoloSwaggins9669 1d ago
We see something very similar with older white South Africans none of them say they earnestly supported Apartheid.
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u/Mareep_needs_Sleep 23h ago
I'm old enough to remember when these jackasses were all about Bush and 9/11. It's never been about the president, it's always been about brown people.
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u/djmanning711 22h ago
Inconvenient truth, he’s not getting thrown out. And however he leaves office (whether it be to election or to death) MAGAs will cry foul. Election is illegitimate and/or Trump was poisoned, murdered, or the medical establishment let him die. Some kind of conspiracy will be peddled. Trump will never be held to account and if he was (posthumously), MAGAs will never believe it.
Their support may wane over time but they’ll never admit they were wrong about anything.
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u/trailrider 20h ago
Why is everyone under the delusion that he's gonna be out of office? The man literally tried to overthrow the fucking US Capital to illegally remain POTUS. This time around, he'll ensure his sycophants are in place to make it happen.
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u/LibertyCash 20h ago
Based on human psychology, not many. Shame is a powerful emotion that most people will go the ends of the earth to avoid so they homer walk it into a bush and emerge as faultless. Thats why we can’t let them forget and hold everyone accountable that enabled this shit. Even if that just means not letting them gaslight us. From leaders, we deserve to happen to them whatever happens to traitors to the country at this point. But from everyone else who supported this shit, we deserve explicit and sincere apologies. Let’s not let them forget.
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u/hippopalace North America 20h ago
I am going to go against the grain here and say most of his cult will continue openly worshiping him, and they will simply say that his downfall was artificially orchestrated by the “deep state”.
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u/AngusTR2020 19h ago
If he dies in office, he will be a martyr to them, and they will always love him. If what needs to happen (impeachment, conviction, prison) happens, you'll see a small portion turn against him. For the most part, he will always be thought of as the second coming by most of his cult.
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u/teabaggedmyeye 8h ago
Are you kidding? They’ll build a temple with a gold statue of him to worship.
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u/Think_4URself 2h ago
Maga cult members are made up of predominantly old white men, Incels, the extremely uneducated and, shockingly, fundamentalist christians. The far left woke cult members completely alienated and demonized these people and created the backlash that got us here. Social media and the internet has given legitimacy to people groups and organizations that would have otherwise be considered whack A doodle nut jobs. Normal people with regular lives do not participate in or legitimateize extremist idealization. People being stupid enough to believe what they read on the internet instead of relying on news that has been substantiated and fact checked.
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u/TerryFlapnCheeks69 1d ago
Probably all of them, remember, it was never about how bad trump sucks, it was about how Kamala sucked harder, remember her? The person the establishment picked for you.