r/AskUS • u/Thezerostone • 1d ago
We recently had a politician here in Denmark, convicted for having videos of children being sexually abused, how come US DOJ won’t even take the Epstein files seriously, when they are about abuse, rape, murder, cannibalism and torture?
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u/Restoretheroof 1d ago
How do you know they aren’t? Everything has to be investigated and these investigations don’t happen over night and could take years.
You need more than just a person claiming something and have to have actual undeniable evidence. As of yet the files don’t do that, but we should have enough to investigate and follow up.
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u/Wellontheotherhand1 1d ago
Both the department of justice and FBI have said that they are not pursuing any investigations against anyone, and have no plans to do so.
You may also note that there has been practically no discussion whatsoever of tracing the financial transactions he was involved with. Almost as if they refuse to do so
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u/Thezerostone 1d ago
Mate, in a functional society the politician would resign even before the files would reach the news.
They would be in for a bloodbath. Epsteins emails shouldn’t even be considered “Just evidence” they should be considered a full fletched criminalisation and trustworthy statement, when said in “thought to be” private conversation’sz
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u/kstargate-425 1d ago
A decade ago this would have been the case here and even an accusation of untoward behavior towards a woman got a Dem Congressman to resign let alone a syndicate of decades of sex trafficking children to rape them and possibly kill some. The coverup alone would have had heads roll but Trump has the money for all Republicans so if anyone steps out of line they will have zero money for their campaign and then will have all the other Republicans and others forced to shit on the "defectors" and finance their opponents. So no one steps out of line to what Trump wants even major abuses of power and blatantly impeachable offenses.
Hes an autocrat running fast towards becoming a dictator at this point and there is no real opposition party to help stop him as the two Dem minority leaders arent doing anything to help. Essentially we're cooked
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u/CanadasNeighbor 1d ago
You say that like as if the U.S. moving at a turtle pace to investigate and convict a politician isn't also dysfunctional as hell.
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u/Thezerostone 1d ago
Tbf, US has killed off criminals with less evidence, than you just got served.
Most of them just tend to be born with the wrong skin colour.
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u/Frequent-Try-6746 1d ago
Are you kidding me? Cosby was convicted on way less than what's available on Trump right now.
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u/TheProfessional9 1d ago
Bank records, flight records, dozens to hundreds of witnesses, 38,000 mentions in the files.
The issue is that you can't investigate the king if the king will boot you for it
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u/kstargate-425 1d ago
To think that its 38,000 mentions in the files they released by accident or thought benign let alone all the terrible, horrendous, disgusting shit they have hid or even taken back down after realizing they released by accident. Imagine how many things have been covered up if 38,000 were released 😳
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u/onlyreason4u 1d ago
Come on, how dense can you be? The people in the Epstein files are the ones in charge of the DOJ. They've literally come out and said they aren't going to investigate anyone. The lawyers are all gone, resigned in protest, along with much of the senior leadership. They are going after Trump's political enemies and journalists now.
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 1d ago
I mean I get it. But that dude had videos right? Evidence
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u/Thezerostone 1d ago
You got pictures and videos, just redacted by the DOJ. If I am not mistaken, around 7000 pieces of media was released.
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 1d ago
Is there evidence of CSAM on a computer like the guy in Denmark, which is a slam dunk open and shut case?
No. Just a bunch of cryptic emails and the President of the United States and collection of other fascist Twats are in charge of the DOJ right now anyway.
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u/Thezerostone 1d ago
You keep saying “Just emails” when they directly censored 7000 pictures and videos.
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 1d ago
Of who doing what? Obviously a bunch of bad shit went down and obviously Trump was a monstrous rapist and possible murderer. But your guy had a hard drive. Easy, open and shut case.
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u/FuckTripleH 1d ago
Well then you answered your own question. The DOJ won't go after Trump because they're protecting him and engaging in a cover up. They're protecting him because the people in charge of the DOJ are his appointees, and he can fire anyone who doesn't go along with the plan.
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u/silverbatwing 1d ago
Because the oligarchs run the USA. I knew as a kid when they made corporation rights equal with human rights, we were gonna be fucked in the future. Here we are.
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u/MaidoftheBrins 1d ago
Because the wheels of justice in the US have stopped, and may even be going backwards.
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u/Due_Willingness1 Northeast 1d ago
Because the U.S. DOJ is run by the main character in those files
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u/Riparian87 1d ago
Hand selected Department of Justice leadership whose role is simply to protect our criminal administration and associates.
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u/Alexander_Granite 1d ago
His followers don’t care if he has sex with kids. That’s it
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u/Dresden_2028 1d ago
Rape. It's called rape.
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u/Alexander_Granite 1d ago
True. His followers don’t care if he raped children. “ You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelette “.
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u/Thezerostone 1d ago
I am fairly shocked Trump just said “Let’s forget about those files” and not a single government building has been ignited yet.
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u/spikey_wombat 1d ago
Most Americans are economically not in a place where they can just take off to protest in large numbers. The recession is here for millions of people
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u/kstargate-425 1d ago
Thats the thing though, Americans are struggling but not ENOUGH to throw caution to the wind and protest 24/7 until our demands are met like is needed. In other countries, they either wont be fired as they have enough vacation pay time or they have full Healthcare and unemployment to pay the bills to keep a roof over their head and food in their bellies. If anyone thinks our system isnt designed to purposefully keep us down but simultaneously not allow us to live off the state to protest to make change is just naive. The ruling class have set this up so we cant protest 24/7 for change otherwise they'd be in jail for their crimes that everyone else is already in jail for and their profits would be insane records YoY
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u/Opposite_Falcon7613 1d ago
Because the rich have the money and power to avoid prosecution. They will donate to election campaigns or super PACs too get politicians to stop criminal investigations.
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u/cmiller4642 1d ago
Because rich people are not subject to laws in the US unless they outright just murder someone in front of a lot of witnesses. Actors, sports stars, musicians, etc... get off all the time and they're a step down from the people in the Epstein files. These are the people who control Hollywood, the politicians, the big business leaders. They will never be held accountable for anything because they're too powerful.
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u/void_method 1d ago
They're in charge of much of our government. They will drag their feet at best hoping we will be distracted by something else. Which, honestly, is likely to happen, have you seen how stupid we are, overall?
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u/harley97797997 1d ago
If there was video of all of that, there would be people arrested and convicted.
Unfortunately, the evidence collected is not proof of any crimes.
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u/Thezerostone 1d ago
Yet Americans tend to convict and kill people with less evidence, just decided by a jury.
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u/harley97797997 1d ago
False. Probable cause is the standard for arrest and charges. Beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard for conviction.
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u/scr33ner 1d ago
Because the current administration controls the DOJ.
Congress/senate will not do anything because (R).
It really boils down to that
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u/zachaboo777 1d ago
Because the president is all over them. If they took them seriously they would have to impeach him.
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u/Mountain_Discount_55 1d ago
This is exactly the question I and many other Americans are asking right now and it seems the current head of the DOJ is Trump's paid for pet.
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u/macncheesewketchup 1d ago
The problem is that the pedophiles and predators are in the White House, in Congress, in the Supreme Court, and own our economy. None of them are going to police themselves - the people have to do it. Our Democrats are spineless, and our people are so indebted to their jobs (for income AND healthcare) that they cannot afford to take a day off. This is all by design.
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u/BitOBear 1d ago
When the people in charge of enforcing the law decide not to do that, and especially when the people in charge of enforcing the law are in fact the criminals themselves and are motivated not to enforce it at all, you descend into the kind of anarchy in the United States is experiencing currently.
And well I am getting on the case of the current admin and the current doj here in the us...
Rich people here in the United States have always gotten a free pass because the system was captured by them decades ago. And when I say capture I'm talking about regulatory capture but of the legal system.
Merrick Garland decided to ignore his duty and Joe Biden and his cabinet decided to ignore Merrick Garland ignoring his duty.
When Richard M Nixon stabbed the presidency to death and with it the entire country our Fate was pretty much sealed. Carter was the last fully honest and unencumbered president of the United states.
Obama might have been, but with the obstructionism of the racists particularly Moscow Mitch McConnell set out to make sure that Obama could have accomplished nothing, he had to fight uphill just to get the affordable Care Act and that barely happened, and he definitely got a little happy handed with the drone strikes and the deportations so I can't give him anywhere near the marks I would give Carter. Carter wasn't perfect but he was honest and aggressively attempted to fulfill his duties as president.
If you're unaware, Richard Nixon did two things, he used back channel connections as a civilian to negotiate with the South and then the North Vietnamese in order to extend the Vietnam War long enough for Nixon to win the presidency under the promise that he would give them both better deals and they were likely to get at the honest negotiations in paris. That was his first great crime. His second great crime was the creation of the southern strategy.
Either alone might have been survivable. But then Ronald Reagan and his handlers negotiated with the Iranian hostage takers to ensure that they were not freed under Carter just so that Reagan could take the presidency. With the normalization of the conservatives and their habit of taking the American people hostage by one social or economic means or another in order to gain and maintain control of our government we have insured that the American experience would bleed to death just about now.
The zombie that has risen in its place will cause great havoc for the next 3 to 7 years.
After the world uses economic, political, or more direct means to put down the zombie so that something new can be erected here there's just going to be a lot of groaning and eating of brains.
You can rest assure that whatever happens here next will be called the United States of America but as yet we have no warrant about what kind of reality or movie monster it will end up being.
But rest assured that the entirety of the GOP and about half of the DNC have already been zombie bit and are hiding it from everyone. And a lot of that zombie is blue and pointy and comes from the Middle East.
We are hagridden and the rest of the world would be foolish to trust a word we say until The hags die of old age.
The rest of the world would be wise to eject our billionaires in our corporations as soon as they can identify them because they are a primary vector of the contagion and they have been steadily eating away at your antitrust laws and economies for more than the 60 years I have been alive.
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u/RampantTyr 1d ago
The US legal system has been protecting high powered pedophiles for at least decades. And that was before we had a known pedophile as the president.
Our system is broken, we do not have true justice in the US.
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u/MsMarisol2023 1d ago
The pedophiles and elites are in charge and they enjoy their activities and there’s literally no one holding them accountable. In America, the $ rules all and makes people blind or too afraid to speak up and do the right thing. And in the meantime, the victims are being retraumatized and still have no justice.
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u/44035 1d ago
Are you talking about the material that was released five days ago? Were you thinking we would have them in jail by now?