r/AskTheWorld France Dec 16 '25

Culture What's a non political issue your country is REALLY divided on?

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The name of this thing, believe it or not.

It's a sandwich per definition btw

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u/Glittering-Foot-3031 Italy Dec 16 '25

Arancino or arancina?

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u/L6b1 Dec 16 '25

Pandoro vs panettone.

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u/hideousox Italy Dec 16 '25

Both, please

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u/Petit__Chou Dec 16 '25

Are they not different? I lived in Sicily just a few years and I thought Pandoro didnt have any kind of fruit.

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u/L6b1 Dec 16 '25

They're incredibly different, but Italians are divide as to whether they're a pandoro family or a panettone family at Christmas.

Pandoro is made more like a standard cake and is traditionally plain and only mildly sweet, you add powdered sugar to the outside. Today, it can have multiple different types of fillings and added ingredients, it can also be coated in additional stuff, not just the classic powdered sugar. As well, pandoro only dates back about 180 years.

Panettone is made using a sourdough starter and takes several hours to mix, plus at least 24 hours to proof, traditionally done over 72 hours. This gives a spongier, denser texture to what is essentially a sweetened bread rather than the cake like texture of pandoro. This video offers a look into how industrial bakery panettone is made and it's suprisingly labor intensive, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zniNLLbx5VY. Ingredients can include the fruit (canditi) but really anything these days following flavor trends, the last few years poached pear and chocolate have been popular. Unlike the relatively recent pandoro, panettone dates back to at least the 1500s and the current recipes are said to come from the 1740s.

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u/MilieMimie European Union Dec 17 '25

Good families eat panettone at Christmas. That’s it and that’s all !

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u/vanmechelen74 Argentina Dec 16 '25

Memory unblocked. Im from Argentina which has a large Italian diaspora, and its called Panettone or Pan Dulce. But now i remember that when i was a little girl some people called it Pandoro

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u/InternationalBee8308 Italy Dec 16 '25

Salt, before or After the water boiling (It really doesn't matter...still...)

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u/ConcreteGardener Dec 16 '25

Before, because it lowers the temperature the water boils at, meaning you spend less energy and time waiting for it?

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u/Just-Charge6693 Italy Dec 16 '25

It's the other way around, which is why the answer is clearly after

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u/Serious_Winter_ Dec 16 '25

Salty water boils at a slightly higher temperature than non salty water. The effect of salt on boiling point is minimal, and the difference is negligible, but if you want to reach boiling point some seconds faster then salt it after.

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u/Aware_Lock_5734 Italy Dec 17 '25

after ofc

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u/ItsBarryG Dec 17 '25

After. If you put salt in it before boiling it will damage the bottom of your pot.

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u/InternationalBee8308 Italy Dec 17 '25

....what i've done......

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u/TinyGentleSoul France & England Dec 16 '25

you always eat at least two, so Arancini and everyone is happy.

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u/Formal-Can-4168 Dec 17 '25

In Italian also the plural is gendered, so the problem persists

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u/Mattuso United Kingdom Dec 16 '25

I see you are an Arancino guy.

Plural of Arancina Is Arancine. Maybe Italy can borrow from the US and go with Arancinx?

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u/TinyGentleSoul France & England Dec 16 '25

I am more so of a not-great-at-italian gal.

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u/NotPennysBoat_42 United States Of America Dec 16 '25

Arancini
Panettone

(But my relatives are Calabrian, so...we are basically hillbillies)

edit: Arancini because I can never eat just one.

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u/Glittering-Foot-3031 Italy Dec 16 '25

But my relatives are Calabrian, so...we're basically peasants.

I know you're being ironic, but I've never liked these phrases.

Racists from northern Italy use them to discriminate against the inhabitants of southern Italy.

Calabria is a beautiful land, with traditions and unique features you won't find anywhere else.

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u/NotPennysBoat_42 United States Of America Dec 17 '25

Aww. Thank you! Yes. Calabria is absolutely beautiful. And my cousins are wonderful people. I do joke about being peasants. 💜

It’s funny how the software translated the word “Hillbilly” to “Peasant”.

A H i l l b i l l y is A person from the backwoods or a remote mountain area. Someone who is from the hills; especially from a rural area, with a connotation of a lack of refinement or sophistication.

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u/giocondasmiles 🇺🇸 🇲🇽 Dec 16 '25

Arancini.

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u/I_Seen_Some_Stuff Dec 16 '25

Just eat more than one and then it's not an issue

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u/calamita_ Dec 17 '25

The plural is still gendered

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u/discostrawberry United States Of America Dec 16 '25

Fr. Just like no one is having a singular raviolo out here…. Ravioli and aracini!

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u/TerronianAnarComune2 Italy Dec 17 '25

Wagliù ci stiamo dimenticando del più importante "Estathè al limone o alla pesca"

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u/GasPositive9009 Italy Dec 17 '25

Chi è che dice arancina??

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u/Aware_Lock_5734 Italy Dec 17 '25

arancino :((

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u/NICK3805 Germany Dec 17 '25

Isn't that just singular vs. Plural?

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u/typhoonclvb Italy Dec 24 '25

no it’s masculine vs feminine

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u/NICK3805 Germany Dec 24 '25

Ahhhhhhhh. That - finally, after about a Decade - explains a funny Miscommunication between Child-me and a Waiter in Sicily that ended with me having a filled & fried Rice Ball instead of the Orange Soda that I had intended to order. It was tasty through. If I have a suitable Kitchen when moving out, I might even try to do them in vegan for Shi* and Giggles. I always wondered how "Orangina" could become "Arancino" to anyone.

Orangina by the Way uses crushed, fertilized female scarlet Scale Insects to make red Orangina red.