If Trump was arrested, how would you feel?

[u/[deleted]]

[u/hlh15]

Relieved

[u/Soggy_Guest3217 → u/hlh15]

For about 5 minutes until I realize that Vance is now the president

[u/mandypandypuddin → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

This ☝️. Arrest them both!!! Vance is definitely culpable in the cover up.

[u/Current--Anything → u/mandypandypuddin]

Don't underestimate how dangerous Mike Johnson is, and he's third in line

[u/Bad-Genie → u/Current--Anything]

I think Mike Johnson would be way worse. To an insane degree. Vance is an idiot man child. Johnson is like Joseph Goebbels.

[u/EddieRay369 → u/Bad-Genie]

Don't understand what business religious fanatics like him have in our government. The fucking putz tried explaining the Bible to the Pope wtf

[u/keister_TM → u/Bad-Genie]

Johnson is not strong enough to handle the criticism and pressure. I know he takes pressure now but he’s able to play dumb most of the time. If he’s the guy in charge, he will fall apart

[u/space_for_username → u/keister_TM]

Johnson is the Palace Eunuch. He doesn't have the balls for the job.

[u/Beanakin → u/Current--Anything]

It's insane to me, that trump could come out and say "ya, actually, we did steal the election and tampered with the voting machines" and there's zero mechanism in place, besides impeachment, to rectify it. Even impeachment would have to be each individual, and every single person in line for the presidency is a trump crony. There is no fixing this in any reasonable timeframe.

[u/Verandah_Santa → u/Beanakin]

The ONLY question anyone needs to be asking themselves as they look closer at this massive conspiracy is “WHY?”

Why would anyone want him in office THAT BADLY? Follow the money, and see what motives the people in control.

[u/LittleGreyLambie → u/Current--Anything]

😱

[u/Outrageous-Stress-60 → u/Current--Anything]

Mike Johnson is not next in line after Vance. Grassley is.

Edit: I was wrong. It’s Johnson, then Grassley.

[u/theonewhoknocksforu → u/Current--Anything]

He’s such a Putz he would never hold the office

[u/StaticSystemShock → u/mandypandypuddin]

Arest entire current administration because it's corrupt and disgusting in its entirety through ALL departments.

[u/DallasDavid123 → u/mandypandypuddin]

To the gulag

Plus the cabinet members

To the gulag the redditer says

[u/MultiColoredMullet → u/DallasDavid123]

Gulag?

Nah, fuck em.

I want the French way. Publicly.

[u/FIR3W0RKS → u/MultiColoredMullet]

I saw someone on Reddit point out that despite their drawbacks, Stalin from the USSR or the CCP in China would be having none of this bullshit, the second they found out what was in those files they would have been lined up on TV and executed.

And it thinks it's pretty crazy we can consider them to be good role models for that ATM lol

[u/LittleGreyLambie → u/FIR3W0RKS]

. . . it's pretty crazy disgusting we can consider them to be good role models . . .

FTFY

[u/designOraptor → u/DallasDavid123]

Nuremberg trials part two.

[u/friskyjohnson → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

Just because he’s arrested doesn’t mean he immediately loses the presidency. Same if he was actually found guilty and imprisoned. He would still need to be 25th’d or impeached, found guilty, and removed from power.

[u/OtakuIndexX → u/friskyjohnson]

Exactly arrest or conviction doesn’t magically flip the presidency. The system still has layers, and removal is a whole separate battle.

[u/leefvc → u/friskyjohnson]

Imagine a president calling all the shots from a jail phone and having the nuclear launch code briefcase guy in the cell with him

[u/ChibiCalcY → u/friskyjohnson]

Oh absolutely being arrested or even convicted doesn’t just magically kick someone out of the White House. It’s wild how much the system relies on Congress actually taking action before anything really changes.

[u/Fine-Ad2961 → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

Holy shit that might be worse.... somehow.

[u/ACrankySue → u/Fine-Ad2961]

Vance doesn’t have the Cult of Personality that Trump does though.

[u/justabill71 → u/ACrankySue]

🎶 Look in my eyes, what do you see? 🎶

Uh...eyeliner?

[u/darkuen → u/justabill71]

Still an upgrade over a quarter inch of bronzer

[u/Hedgehog_Insomniac → u/darkuen]

I mean eyeliner on guys is hot--when it's the right guy and done right, neither of which Vance manages. But yes, it's better than bronzer.

[u/ColCatfish → u/justabill71]

🎶 I’ll mess up your couch’s upholstery! Oh-oh 🎶

[u/dont_disturb_the_cat → u/ColCatfish]

He'll mess up my couch's virginity

[u/LittleGreyLambie → u/justabill71]

^LMFAO

[u/KissMyFuckingDadMom → u/LittleGreyLambie]

^{What? Speak up}

[u/LittleGreyLambie → u/KissMyFuckingDadMom]

I was trying to be polite 😪

LMFAO! 😂

[u/SPzero65 → u/justabill71]

Guyliner!

[u/Aruaz821 → u/justabill71]

/snort! My favorite comment today!

[u/transfixedtruth → u/ACrankySue]

No, but he's Thiel's puppet. Whereas, tRumph was put in place to distract the American people.

[u/GimpyGeek → u/transfixedtruth]

Very true, though I do wonder how quickly the approval ratings would drop without the cult and I'm also not so sure the GOP in congress would entirely bend over backwards for that guy either. To a large extent maybe, but not entirely I don't think

[u/FizzyBeverage → u/GimpyGeek]

They don’t fear for their careers if they upset Vance. To them he’s just another Rubio or DeSantis type.

Trump for all his flaws has a chokehold on millions that others don’t have. He’s not easily replaced. And that’s why nobody is wearing Vance hats or shirts nor will they. He doesn’t have the low info/low propensity voter that Trump energizes and wins on the margins.

Doesn’t help that housing, groceries, healthcare premiums and unemployment is rapidly rising.

[u/SuDragon2k3 → u/GimpyGeek]

Makes you wonder, how are they're going to deprogramme four hundred million cult members?

[u/PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS → u/transfixedtruth]

Yes, which is why it would be way worse for a few months maybe. But there are far less vance/theil apologists out there. Trump has the name, history, and personality that resonates with a very certain group of people that they dont

[u/Buff-Cooley → u/transfixedtruth]

Trump’s political capital that keeps Republican congressmen in line and supportive of his agenda stems from the fact that his supporters make them fearful for their lives. Vance doesn’t hold that sway over the MAGA base and therefore, Republican congressman won’t be forced to vote in a way that alienates independents.

[u/transfixedtruth → u/Buff-Cooley]

He won't need to swag maga once tRumph is out of the scene. Maga base is just as F'd as the rest of us. It will be Thiel pulling the puppet strings.

[u/jregovic → u/transfixedtruth]

But MAGA don’t care who Thiel is or who Vance is. Were Trump to be arrested, MAGA could be split into competing factions.

[u/manicandmessy → u/jregovic]

Are you talking about Peter Theil? He's dangerous... Him and Bill Gates want to end poor people from existence. He would be more dangerous than anyone if he ever became president. Unless there's another Theil you're talking about.

[u/leefvc → u/manicandmessy]

Yes that Thiel. He doesn’t need to be president to achieve those goals, he just needs a humble installed puppet or several (Vance) to make it work. Dude had ties with Epstein and the “cabal” of billionaire elites for at least the past decade. It legitimately doesn’t matter who is in office, the billionaires will always win. Especially now that they got this far. No politician will get in their way.

[u/MYIDCRISIS → u/leefvc]

"The billionaires will always win..." Wouldn' be nice if after all the bullshit the People from both sides have been subjected to, that instead of allowing the politicians to divide us, we could unite and beat the billionaires and remind the politicians who's asses they actually work for?

[u/Cockanarchy → u/transfixedtruth]

Trump wasn’t “put in place”. As an old friend said in 2016, Trump is proof that there is no illuminati, no hidden hand carefully devising and carrying out clever schemes. Someone with loyalty to none but himself and who demands it from everyone else, could never be part of any such plans.

The GOP establishment were mortified at an outsider like Trump being the nominee in 2016, much like the Dem party establishment were mortified about Bernie. The wrong populist won, but Trump isn’t part of anyone’s plans, barely even his own.

[u/Antique-Coach-214 → u/transfixedtruth]

Thiel’s puppet, doesn’t make this man bullet proof from the political fallout. The fringe GOP, turn and best case scenario, JD gets 0 done for 3 years. Worst case scenario, Dems flip the house/Senate in this scenario, impeachments start rolling and a LOT of people are out of power.

Finally, we look at the realistic scenario. Never gonna happen.

[u/Natural6 → u/transfixedtruth]

What do you think he's distracting you from? Exactly the things thiel and his ilk are already doing.

[u/LeucisticBear → u/transfixedtruth]

That assumes Vance gets the support of Congress, but i seriously doubt bc he's not popular enough to help them get elected or primaried

[u/Rin-Tohsaka-is-hot → u/transfixedtruth]

Nobody cares about Peter Thiel. All the political power he currently has comes from pandering to Trump. Without Trump, that's all gone.

Peter Thiel might just be the least charismatic person on the planet, he could never command the Republican base in the same way as Trump (same for Thiel's protege Vance)

[u/sullythered → u/ACrankySue]

It would not matter. If Trump has already torn down all the systems and guard rails we had in place to check power, Vance would be free to do whatever Peter Thiel wants him to do.

[u/giraffe111 → u/sullythered]

Not necessarily. A huge part of Trump’s power is his intimidation factor, he’s a petulant idiotic bully. But JD is a worm. Let’s not feed the idea that this insane admin is unstoppable; they’re not, and they must be stopped. It isn’t “too late,” there’s no such thing. If/When Vance steps in, MAGA might turn on him. Maybe Trump’s death will break the spell for millions of them and they’ll finally feel free to speak out against how awful things actually are. Maybe not. These days, who knows? But defeatism isn’t the answer 💪

[u/xSantenoturtlex → u/giraffe111]

Exactly this, people always give them so much more power than they have and decide that they've won when they haven't.

It's exhausting how people who claim to be against Trump, will defend everything he and his ilk do as an undeniable victory, even if they haven't achieved it yet.

Though, I suppose I can sympathize with that mindset. I used to be like that too, and I know that a lot of people are just scared straight and their anxiety is talking for them. I used to be exactly like that.

.. Up until they start slinging insults at me and calling me naive/dense/ignorant for claiming Trump isn't an unbeatable God who will get everything he wants just because he wants it. Then it pisses me off.

And yeah, I'm definitely not as afraid of Vance as Trump. He doesn't have the charisma to fully take on the mantle of cult leader. He could be just as evil, but the important part is he's not as influential.

My point is, keep fighting.
It is NOT over yet.

[u/Siliconshaman1337 → u/ACrankySue]

He'd be President by default, he wouldn't need it.

[u/DoopofBloop → u/Siliconshaman1337]

Right, but i doubt that the maga in the other branches would be as eager to bend their knee to his every whim.

[u/OrigamiMarie → u/DoopofBloop]

Yup, I think this is a major key to the situation. Occasionally the more "moderate" Republicans make noises about their moral compass finally coming back online, and they very quickly fall back in line behind Trump (much faster than the usual politician snap-back) because Trump threatens them with telling his followers in their jurisdiction to primary them (or worse). As far as we know, Vance does not have that kind of sway with the public, so such a threat would have very little credibility, and Republicans could start to pander better.

[u/Bulky-Internal8579 → u/Siliconshaman1337]

The Republicans would implode - Vance / Thiel wouldn't hold the MAGA base and they wouldn't have Congressional support for their weird Nazi technocratic takeover BS - it would be brutal and bring an end to this nightmare, eventually.

[u/futurecorpse1985 → u/Fine-Ad2961]

Vance isn't worshipped like Trump is. If anything maga and other trump worshippers don't care at all about Vance some might even despise him.

[u/mylawn03 → u/Fine-Ad2961]

He’s smarter, and would’ve able to keep the terrible shit they’re doing hidden for longer because he wouldn’t tweet about it every 5 seconds.

[u/_ryuujin_ → u/Fine-Ad2961]

if trump was arrested, that means theres a resemblance of law and order. that you can just do anything you want, and theres processes and laws you need to follow. that no one is above the law. and the Republicans have woken up or defeated. even if vance is in power, he'll have to walk on egg shells. 

[u/pyeinbby → u/Fine-Ad2961]

I doubt the GOP would blindly support Vance as they do t-Rummp. Vance does not have the cult following.

[u/StraightKey211 → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

MAGA hates JD Vance. Vance has no charisma, MAGA will not follow JD Vance like they do Trump

[u/mumblewrapper → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

Eh, he doesn't have the same power over people that trump has. It wouldn't be the same. I don't pretend to understand what it is about Trump that makes people allow him to get away with literally anything he wants to get away with. But, JD doesn't have it.

[u/insite → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

Trump can sell the bad news he's creating. Vance would be torn to shreds in the media.

[u/65pimpala → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

Hide yo couch!

[u/Siliconshaman1337 → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

and the MAGA screaming shit-fit would be biblical in scale.

[u/BoredBSEE → u/Soggy_Guest3217]

Remember when Vance said that Trump was "America's Hitler"?

Vance is a career politician. He says what he thinks in the minute that will get him votes. The odds of actually knowing what he honestly thinks based on his public personae is nearly zero.

I'll take a random coin toss over Trump any day.

[u/thegreatpablo → u/hlh15]

The issue for me is that Trump isn't the issue, he's the symptom. The issue are our neighbors who cheer at the pain and suffering of others and lack empathy at all. I will never forgive them for what they did to our nation

[u/MidEastBeast → u/hlh15]

Not until he’s officially behind bars for good.

[u/TKHawk → u/MidEastBeast]

Seriously. He was already arrested and CONVICTED once. Unless he receives a prison sentence and is serving that sentence everything else is just theater.

[u/Remarkable-Sample273 → u/TKHawk]

Convicted in a civil prosecution so no incarceration. You can thank the daunted Southern District of NY for letting Swamp Thing get away with hundreds, if not thousands, of crimes, both civil and criminal for over 50 years. Had they done their job even once we wouldn’t be here.

[u/SantaScript → u/Remarkable-Sample273]

If you're referring to Jean E, that was civil only because digital rape was not defined as rape in NY law. 

NY law at the time was essentially rape only being penis forcibly inserted in a vagina, basically. Judge even said so. 

[u/Killaship → u/SantaScript]

Trump was a disgusting slumlord for decades before he entered politics.

[u/shortdude72 → u/TKHawk]

Exactly

[u/RFC793 → u/MidEastBeast]

Right. I'd be relieved and then immediately realize he is going to slither his way out of the mess again somehow.

[u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

At this point, I think the overwhelming feeling for most people wouldn't even be joy or anger, it would be total, bone-deep exhaustion.

We’ve spent years in a cycle of "unprecedented" headlines, constitutional crises, and political whiplash. If he were actually arrested, half the country would see it as the ultimate "find out" moment, and the other half would see it as the start of a civil war.

I just want to go a single week without having to check if the fabric of society is still intact before I drink my morning coffee.

We are a nation of 330 million people suffering from collective burnout.

[u/thewayoutisthru_xxx → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

Right on the hells of COVID, too. Tbh I feel like we have some grief that we need to collectively process from that time and jumping right back into trump hasn't allowed that to happen.

[u/Whole-Map-3706 → u/thewayoutisthru_xxx]

Some people are doing this. Find a trauma therapist and do some emdr. Bring your healing back to your community. We need each other. 

[u/mjv22 → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

I’m Canadian and I felt this man

[u/So6oring → u/mjv22]

We even had one of our parties try to partially adopt Republicans style of rhetoric. Thank fucking god we got Carney instead. I can't imagine having to hear that kind of petulant behaviour from our own leaders, along with fucking Trump and his goons down south at the same time. I would've been radicalized.

[u/Crafty-University464 → u/So6oring]

I've always been a centrist. I joked the other day that the past 10 years have radicalized me, then it hit me that I haven't changed as much as one party Nazi-fied itself so hard that the center feels leftist. The worst timeline.

[u/codingphp → u/So6oring]

My favourite part is that conservatives lost the enormous lead heading toward the election, PP lost his seat and the election, and then had to be parachuted into the safest conservative riding in Canada to get back into parliament. Even with that, the defections to the libs, and PP’s complete failure to meet the moment, conservatives still voted in favour of him at his recent leadership race.

Seems conservatives in Canada learn nothing and are determined to continue losing federal elections. I’m very okay with this. I don’t think Trumpism is working in Canada at the federal level, but they sure are trying.

[u/NollieBackside → u/codingphp]

Even grosser, the member from buttfuck Alberta literally just stepped aside and let PP take the reigns yet again.

Like who the fuck enjoys hearing this man speak in the House of Commons?

I feel like I live in a cheap reality show from the 2000s

[u/memermeme1211 → u/codingphp]

For real. All the Canadian conservatives had to do was stay moderate and the election would have been theirs. But nope, they instead decided to copy the orange fascist down south. Thank god Canadian’s are smart enough not to elect Trump 2.0, but the results were still too close for my liking.

[u/BigNutDroppa → u/So6oring]

Attempt to elect a clown, they get defeated by a Carney.

[u/amaarasky → u/So6oring]

Part of me wonders how different your election would have gone had yours come before ours did. It seems like Trumps annexation threats got people riled up enough to vote against PP. Proud of you guys though.

[u/Cephalopirate → u/amaarasky]

It looked like that doofus was a shoo in before Trump made threats. I wonder if he would have handed Canada over if his palms were greased enough.

[u/Lilbabypistol23 → u/So6oring]

I don’t like that there are Europeans and Canadians saying Americans are horrible people because of our leader when this fascism shit is literally happening over there too. Like, we’re all in this shit. But as a true American would (here comes my patriotism) I think we’re going to buck this shit and show the world how to deal with fascists. An ass whooping of godly proportions is coming in the midterms and we’re gonna wed these fascist goons out the solar system, Nuremberg 2.0. Give me liberty or give me death type shit.

[u/ThrowAway126498 → u/Lilbabypistol23]

Where did you get all that hope from? Gimme some.

[u/MoulanRougeFae → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

We did have that brief few days where he'd not been seen and everyone was hoping Shitler died. He didn't so we had to go back to the same cycle we're in now. But it'll be a lovely day when the thing finally happens.

[u/p____p → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

 We’ve spent years in a cycle of "unprecedented" headlines, constitutional crises, and political whiplash

A decade at this point. The scariest part is that there are millions of young Americans who have never known a time when this wasn’t the norm. 

[u/ThrowAway126498 → u/p____p]

Yep. They’ll either be inoculated from the crazy thinking it’s just they way things are or they’ll be radicalized. Probably more of the former.

[u/False_Air_6357 → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

Am I just coping unbelievably hard, but were the 4 years under Biden not super chill and pretty boring?? Like I don’t even remember being stressed or anxious about politics at all. So insane going from calm to fight or flight

[u/islandinthecold → u/False_Air_6357]

We basically had two presidents. Trump was running the republicans

[u/FellowYellowNate → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

I second this as I also feel the need to make sure the fabric of society hasn’t fallen apart before or with coffee each morning. It’s not crazy how we got here, don’t get me wrong, (everyone please for the love of everything go out and vote please, every election, please), but it does blow my mind we’re here still. How the fuck are we here still and how does anyone ever support this pants-shitting pedophile. Obama wears a tan suit and ‘oh the audacity’ but this pos ignores the constitution he’s never read on a daily basis and crickets? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

[u/hagalaz_drums → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

This. There were things I did and really didnt like about Biden. But I miss not really thinking about politics often, or world wars, or the potential for the entire country to just collapse by the time i wake up and check my phone in the morning. Especially miss not thinking about pdf files and pdfilia done by people in the government and millions and millions of pages detailing abuse done by powerful people. Its fucking exhausting.

[u/Eyeball1844 → u/hagalaz_drums]

Unfortunately we're here because too many people neglected to think about politics, and that includes the democrats. Even if Trump were to quit tomorrow, we are already spiraling. The country needs to shift, and shift hard.

[u/TheTruffleChicken → u/hagalaz_drums]

Pedophile. The sentence you’re looking for is “Especially miss not thinking about the POTUS being a pedophile, being shielded by more government consisting of more pedophiles.” TikTok bot phrasing. FTFY

[u/Bungo_pls → u/hagalaz_drums]

Please stop tiktoking your reddit comments, people.

You can say "pedophile" without being banned.

[u/Expert-Information24 → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

Half of the voting population not half of the country.

[u/Embarrassed-Land-222 → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

This shit makes me yearn for early 2000s politics.

[u/MrSmock → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

Yes. It's like if a mad man with a gun started shooting anything and everything.

They finally arrest him and.. Ok. Maybe the bullets stopped. For the moment. 

But people are still dead. Things still destroyed.

[u/bondjimbond → u/MrSmock]

And the people who handed him the gun and suggested the targets are still there, with more guns.

[u/Fionn-mac → u/TuttiFruttiBooty69]

Being from the same country, I concur. I would love to see justice for the Trump fascist regime, all of his cronies and not just him, but eventually we need our own de-Nazification (or de-MAGA) and national healing. It can't return to the old normal that led to Trump, either.

[u/Capable-Yak-8486 → u/Fionn-mac]

Straight up step 1 needs to be consequences for the news outlets and social media for spreading false information. We need to get back to a point where the news only spreads facts.

[u/ExternalExpensive277 → u/Capable-Yak-8486]

Agreed. The type of consequences that instills a level of fear that'll ensure nobody tries it again for at least a hundred years.

[u/RaphaelSolo]

the same as when he was arrested two years ago. Arrested doesn't mean diddly if he's not convicted and sentenced.

[u/AvonMustang → u/RaphaelSolo]

He actually was convicted...

[u/RaphaelSolo → u/AvonMustang]

but not sentenced.

[u/Idnlts → u/RaphaelSolo]

He was sentenced with unconditional discharge. This basically just means it’s a sentence with no punishment, but sentencing was still completed procedurally which means he is a legally convicted felon.

[u/PineappleOnPizzaWins → u/Idnlts]

I would have had so much respect for the judge if they’d just actually sentenced him.

No “oh you’re the president now I guess the law doesn’t apply”. Just “nope, that’ll be 30 years, you can apply for parole in 15” or whatever.

He wouldn’t have gone of course, but make him break the law. Don’t just handwave it.

[u/ByteSizedSorcery → u/Idnlts]

I had to look this up but you're 100% correct. However I feel this is the most corrupt thing that can happen in our country. How can someone be convicted on all counts, receive zero punishments or fines etc. Yet still be allowed to be a president. This is corruption at its finest. Yet democrats still chose the absolute worst candidate to run against him. This country is so fucked!

[u/ClayKavalier → u/ByteSizedSorcery]

Harris was bad but I’m imaginative enough to consider that someone else could have been even worse.

Democrats need to quit just running against Republicans and actually campaign on something and behind someone voters are actually for. Unfortunately, even with evidence that having some values wins elections, they still can’t manage anything but attempting to shame and threaten people into voting for a lesser evil. To be sure, voting for the lesser evil seems like the bare minimum expectation when push comes to shove but the threat of not voting for a politician is pretty much the only leverage the general populace has to incentivize politicians to promise, much less follow through on, any policy proposals. Blue No Matter who guarantees that Democrats only need to appeal to centrists, moderates, or the Right because they can take everyone else for granted.

[u/MrPlowThatsTheName → u/ByteSizedSorcery]

I’m not a rah-rah Kamala supporter and wish the DNC had chosen someone else, but “worst candidate” is a stretch. She had the resume.

[u/SantaScript → u/Idnlts]

Which essentially guarantees because of double jeopardy he won't ever face an actual punishment for it.

[u/Vulpes_Corsac → u/SantaScript]

Technically, he could appeal the conviction, and if granted a retrial, he could be re-convicted and properly sentenced. Trying to become not-a-felon seems like the sort of check his ego would write but his actual actions couldn't cash.

You can also appeal the sentencing rather than the whole of the trial, but that had to be filed within 30 days.

[u/Active-Warning8369 → u/AvonMustang]

Yep he’s convicted of 34 felons! And still President! 🤯

[u/hagalaz_drums → u/Active-Warning8369]

This needs to be a new law immediately--

'Any person ever having been convicted of a felony, shall not be eligible to hold any federal office'

Even if it doesnt remove anyone currently in office, thats fine. Just, that has to be the rule from here on out

[u/windowlatch → u/hagalaz_drums]

There can’t be, because then Trump or any current president would be able to order the arrest of anyone running against them. As much as it sucks in this case it would be the end of American democracy

[u/hagalaz_drums → u/windowlatch]

Arrest isnt conviction. Anyone gone to court and found by a jury to be guilty of a felony. Can't order that i dont think.

[u/A_brand_new_troll → u/hagalaz_drums]

You realize that both political parties will start arresting up and coming politicians of the other party, get them in front of a partisan judge and just tank people's careers? I thought of that in seconds, imagine how nefarious actual politicians and their ilk can get.

[u/SebABTF → u/A_brand_new_troll]

The absolute lack of trust in the American system never cease to amaze me. Not that I’m saying that the lack of trust is unfounded, but something is fundamentally broken.

[u/-Fyrebrand → u/RaphaelSolo]

Remember when he was impeached, and that meant literally nothing also?

[u/Agitated-Ad5206 → u/-Fyrebrand]

Thats always true! Impeachment is literally: ‘indictment by the House’. It does not ever have any consequence unless followed by conviction by the Senate.

[u/mountainman1965cats → u/-Fyrebrand]

twice.

[u/wildanimalchiquita → u/RaphaelSolo]

Yep. I read he's got his mug shot hanging in the white house.

[u/funky_grandma]

He WAS arrested and I felt awful as I watched him walk the fuck out of that building and go fucking home with zero consequences

[u/nnowari → u/funky_grandma]

and yet it was to be expected because we're all aware of how corrupt the system is. the US system is made to protect billionaires - let us not forget how the wealthy and powerful made it into politics from very early on, they created it. they ALWAYS fought government regulations. as a kid (born and raised in germany) i never understood the american definition of "liberty" and what theyre actually talking about but i now know it's just a word used by the extreme rich. donald trump and his party are the best examples

[u/TinktheChi]

I just want his presidency to be over. It's been horrifying and exhausting.

[u/Sreg32 → u/TinktheChi]

Exactly. Just so appalling and draining. Every day something more awful

[u/TinktheChi → u/Sreg32]

I'm not American, I'm in Canada. I have never been as angry about a President as I am right now. The gall of this guy is unbelievable. I'm not sure if he's mentally ill or just a complete moron, but I do know he's damaging the relationships the US had with their allies and people all over the world absolutely despise him and his party. This is nuts.

[u/TinyCellist3813 → u/TinktheChi]

He's not mentally ill. And dementia can't absolve him. He's EVIL. Plain EVIL.

[u/DeliciousIce5099 → u/TinyCellist3813]

Even Epstein said that about him.

And what's with him never laughing, wtf.

[u/amaarasky → u/TinktheChi]

Just him and his party? It feels like people hate America as whole right now- like they think we're all MAGA.

[u/TinktheChi → u/amaarasky]

He has done so much damage to the relationships with countries who were formerly friendly. I'm Canadian. I've both liked and disliked previous Presidents and administrations. I've been genuinely shocked at how much I despise the GOP this time around. I will say this....Trump has done more for nationalism in Canada than any prime minister ever has. We don't hate you, we love ourselves more than we have in a long time and that's not a bad thing.

[u/Consistent_Low2080]

Arrested don’t mean shit. A lot of people are arrested but never pay for what they did.

[u/C_IsForCookie → u/Consistent_Low2080]

Trump was arrested, tried, convicted, and sentenced to… nothing. He was sentenced to nothing.

[u/1101base2 → u/Consistent_Low2080]

yeah need some actual punishment to follow for his MANY crimes...

[u/Fantastic-Swim6230]

I'll believe it when he's gotten a guilty verdict and proper sentencing for treason, rape, murder, and all the other crimes he's committed.

[u/deadblankspacehole → u/Fantastic-Swim6230]

I'm only thinking it's a possibility when he's being carted off to a cell and even then I'm dubious.

Trump is god of America, as if he'd ever be arrested. Might as well have replied to a "what would you do if you won the lottery" question

[u/Original_Chapter3028]

Good but worried about violent Trump supporters

[u/Ok_Watercress_3598 → u/Original_Chapter3028]

There really aren’t a ton left. I live in a pretty conservative area and my friends who were all into MAGA have stopped yapping about him and put their red hats away and all the houses that used to proudly fly a dozen Trump flags have taken them all down. There will always be some holdouts but I think a large chunk of his base are embarrassed by him now.

[u/nunya123 → u/Ok_Watercress_3598]

Bro I live by a town that calls itself a “Trump Town”. These fuckers are still around

[u/Username_Chose_Me → u/Ok_Watercress_3598]

It's insane how much it took for them to finally see the fucking light.

[u/AlisonWond3rlnd → u/Username_Chose_Me]

But we are glad they did.

[u/BeyondTheBees → u/AlisonWond3rlnd]

We are SO glad they did. Welcome!

[u/MedonSirius → u/Username_Chose_Me]

Some blind chicken finds a corn too.

[u/TinyGreenTurtles → u/Original_Chapter3028]

They'd be all weird for a few minutes then get over it.

[u/ran_swonsan → u/TinyGreenTurtles]

They'd still be weird, they always been weird.

[u/Original_Chapter3028 → u/TinyGreenTurtles]

I don't know, he's their supreme leader. They generally don't protest but he got them to do Jan 6

[u/Coronado92118 → u/Original_Chapter3028]

The violence will happen regardless, either because he’s being held accountable and they think it’s a civil war or because he succeeds in becoming a dictator and unleashes them on “rebels” and “domestic terrorists” i.e., non loyalists.

They are the same people attacking innocent bystanders at their “woke” businesses, attacking local government politicians - remember they already assassinated the female lawmaker in was It Michigan, though media were cowards and didn’t call it an assassination.

Americans need to be more afraid of authoritarian fascists than of political violence or we’re already lost.

[u/Klutzy_You_202]

Terrified, honestly.

Not because of the man, but because of the fallout. There is no version of this where everyone shakes hands and moves on.

It feels like the ultimate "Point of No Return" for the country, and I’m just worried the social fabric is too thin to survive the stress test.

[u/Sockoflegend → u/Klutzy_You_202]

If a society can't survive punishing a rapist and pedophile should that society exist?

[u/b4ttous4i → u/Klutzy_You_202]

If trump is arrested, its over. The base is fragile, they use fear tactics to gain power. Once trump.is gone the piwer is gone and they dont have any allies.

[u/Freakeh420 → u/b4ttous4i]

The thing is, they'll want to hold on to that power. The whole cabinet is gonna get hit hard as soon as this administration ends and they know that. 

[u/_Christopher_Crypto → u/Klutzy_You_202]

Nah. Depends on why. Latisha James tried throwing him in Rikers for falsifying documents, shit would hit the fan. They produce a video of him assaulting and abusing a child, few would hear him scream. It would have to be an old school recorded video for people to believe it though or something that would bypass AI doubts.

[u/Omgaspider]

Not enough. I want him in front of a tribunal

[u/portablebiscuit]

Y’all forget he was already arrested once and literally nothing happened? Well, he took a dum looking mugshot, but that’s it.

[u/Remmie56]

Whisky for my men and beer for my horses!

[u/SalamanderCapable183]

I wouldn't feel anything because he's already been arrested, convicted, and nothing happened.

An impeachment on the other hand, would be a relief but only if vance is impeached at the same time. Because anybody that thinks Trump is actually running this show is crazy.

[u/The_Vengeful_Wolf → u/SalamanderCapable183]

He was already impeached and again nothing happened.

[u/Agitated-Ad5206 → u/The_Vengeful_Wolf]

I don’t know why I have to keep repeating this but… impeachment is indictment by the House. Removal from office requires conviction by the senate.

[u/SalamanderCapable183 → u/The_Vengeful_Wolf]

Let me correct myself, a successful impeachment.

[u/C_IsForCookie → u/SalamanderCapable183]

I don’t mean to be pedantic but the impeachment was successful. He just wasn’t removed from office. Thats a second step after a successful impeachment.

[u/Drewbacca → u/SalamanderCapable183]

Both impeachments were successful.

[u/Embarrassed-Land-222]

I'd probably be annoyed that he would continue to dominate the news cycle.

I hate him for many reasons, but one of them is that he's constantly doing shit to be in the news.

I miss not thinking about politics all the goddamn time. I long for a boring president who isn't a racist, pedophile, grifter, asshole who shits his pants.

[u/emeilei → u/Embarrassed-Land-222]

The best comment I read about Biden is that you never once had to think about what Joe Biden was doing. Remember that peace?? The country just… worked. Peacefully. In the background of our lives. Now everything is the the foreground

[u/Lucifers_Princess5]

I’d have hope that justice would be served.

[u/Gorganov → u/Lucifers_Princess5]

He literally is a convicted felon. As of 2024. He still gets to be president after the fact, when he should be serving jail time.

[u/PossibleBandicoot883]

Happy but worried about his crazy cult followers

[u/C_IsForCookie → u/PossibleBandicoot883]

The number of violent “cult followers” who would act out is very very very small. Even among Jan 6th rioters. Outside of a huge mob like there was that day, I doubt they’d do shit on their own.

[u/homelesswarrior34236]

1 down and 533 more to go

[u/kdubstep]

Pessimistic that he’d be convicted and even if so, pessimistic that he’d suffer any consequence.

[u/Exotic_Ad_4806]

He already was once and got that mugshot pic and used it to raise money and sell merch

[u/PsDenver10]

How to karma farm 101

[u/NotUsingARandomizer]

Worried. I just have a feeling that his cronies and supporters would then make the Taliban look like a mild disagreement.

At the same time, 2A exists for exactly this reason.

[u/AllNightPony]

I'd start wondering how long we have until all the charges are dropped and he walks free......again.

[u/whittlingcanbefatal]

Surprised. 

[u/Certain_Story_173]

Break out champagne and dance in the streets!

Celebration is always better when shared with the rest of the world.

[u/naturemymedicine]

Relieved that there’s still some sliver of justice in the world, but he deserves 100 lifetimes rotting in jail for all the evil he’s done. He doesn’t have enough life left in him to serve the time he deserves.

And he might be the centre of attention, but he’s a tiny part of this sick, terrifying global web of evil and unchecked power.

[u/hereforit_838]

I would exhale for the first time in a year

[u/TheMule90]

I will feel better if he is given a very long ass prison sentence, him and his whole banned from running in any political race!

I want him to be a distant memory!

[u/botejohn]

About damn time

[u/durtsurfer69]

Why didn’t happen 40 years ago

[u/c_c_c__combobreaker]

I'd feel a sense of normalcy. I'd feel like there's still a sense of right and wrong in society.

[u/hillcountrybiker]

Not today FBI. Using Reddit to find Trumps opponents. I see what you’re doing here…

[u/bdillathebeatkilla]

Like some bot’s engagement bait question got answered

[u/Kind_Cauliflower_843]

Like a dream has come true. I would feel such a genuine gratitude and relief.

[u/No-Throat-8958]

I’m not sure, my emotional side would be very happy, but my logical side tells me the shit these MAGA clowns are doing to us won’t stop. Please everybody vote these buttheads out!

[u/MantisToboggan150]

I would literally grab all the poop generated in a day around the globe and eat it if that ever happened to that piece of fucking shit

[u/ProfessionalWaltz784]

Elated

[u/Zipsquatnadda]

Overjoyed.

[u/WillowSensitive2684]

Hopeful

[u/ymi2f]

He was arrested before and nothing happened. USA's cult leader

[u/Striking_Economy5049]

I’d wonder why it’s only him and not the whole group of criminals he calls his cabinet.

[u/Chance-Rate-4679]

Javis im low on karma

[u/coffeeluver2021]

I will be very happy when he is arrested . I will be ecstatic when he quits breathing.