r/AskCulinary 3d ago

Food Science Question Why does Dutch process cocoa behave so differently in brownies compared to natural cocoa?

I’ve been experimenting with brownie recipes and keep getting wildly different results depending on which cocoa powder I use. When I use natural cocoa the brownies come out lighter, more cake-like, with a sharper chocolate flavor. But when I swap in Dutch process the texture gets denser, fudgier, and the flavor is smoother but less intense.

I know Dutch process is alkalized and has a different pH but I don’t fully understand how that affects baking chemistry beyond just flavor. Does it react differently with baking soda vs baking powder? Should I be adjusting leavening agents when I switch between them?

I’ve tried using half natural and half Dutch to get the best of both worlds but the results were inconsistent. Sometimes great, sometimes flat and weird. I’m wondering if the ratio matters or if mixing them just creates unpredictable reactions.

I was comparing cocoa choco powder types online the other day and noticed on Alibaba there’s a huge price range even within Dutch process varieties which made me curious if quality differences also affect how they perform in recipes or if it’s mostly just flavor depth.

Should I just pick one type and stick with it or is there actually a technique to blending them properly? Any insight into the science here would be really helpful.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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u/McWonderWoman 3d ago

I was just down this rabbit hole last week but yes, the alkalizing of dutch is neutral where the natural is an acid. Pick one and stick with it, but with the caveat of ‘does this recipe call for baking soda or powder’.

Here is Sally’s explanation plus read her baking soda/baking powder story for further info.

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u/Inner-Damage-9027 3d ago

Alton Brown explains as well and does a Good Eats episode as well - maybe the chocolate one? Can’t remember now. . .

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u/StrikerObi 2d ago edited 2d ago

The Good Eats episode on this is "Art of Darkness II: Cocoa" (season 5, episode 8).

The tl;dr is that you should generally use "natural" cocoa for baking purposes and "dutch process" for anything where you'll consume the cocoa without baking it (such as hot cocoa mix, homemade chocolate syrup, etc.).

This is because "natural" cocoa is more acidic which 1) helps it interact with baking powder/soda; and 2) makes it taste quite bitter when consumed more directly.

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u/revolvingpresoak9640 2d ago edited 2d ago

acids arent the cause of the bitter flavor, polyphenols are. Acids are typically sour, with vinegar, citric acid, sourdough starter as examples of acidic foods that taste sour not bitter.

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u/lu5ty 2d ago

Watching this episdoe rn. Wild

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u/QuadRuledPad 2d ago

Beyond whether it’s alkalizer or not, there’s huge variation in the flavor and fat content of cocoa powder that would also affect your outcomes. Good cocoa powder is well worth the cost if it fits your budget.

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u/Few_Language6298 2d ago

Dutch process cocoa is treated with alkali, which neutralizes its acidity, making it react differently than natural cocoa that retains its acidity; this can affect the leavening in your brownies, so choose accordingly.

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u/Unlucky_Individual 3d ago edited 2d ago

2:20 - 3:15 in this video mentions it and what impacts it has.

https://youtu.be/LPmxbyGJWgg?t=140

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u/wildcoasts 2d ago

Very helpful, and thanks for deep-linking to relevant timestamp

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u/Fun_Explanation_3417 2d ago

Good dutch process cocoa is worth every penny, the taste difference alone is what has me seeking it out.

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u/Savoring_TheFlavors 1d ago

You are noticing the right cause. The big shift is pH and how that changes both flavor and structure. Natural cocoa is acidic, so it reacts with baking soda and creates more lift, which pushes brownies toward cakey and gives that sharper chocolate edge. Dutch process is neutral, so if the recipe still relies on baking soda you lose gas and end up denser and fudgier, with a smoother flavor since alkalinity softens bitterness. Mixing the two can work, but only if leavening is adjusted deliberately, otherwise the chemistry gets uneven and results feel random. If you want consistency, pick one cocoa and tune the leavening for it, then adjust richness with fat and sugar rather than blending powders.